Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Pocket

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We were both guys in the Civil War; that's why it was a civil war.

And World War I was just a huge dick-waving contest between rulers who were hopelessly out of touch about the realities of modern warfare, and who adopted a good-guy-bad-guy narrative after the fact. We would have stayed out of it if one of those rulers hadn't made the dumb mistake of waving their dick at us. The narrative that there were good guys and bad guys was made up after the fact by the side that happened to win, as is often the case.
 

Axaday

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We were both guys in the Civil War; that's why it was a civil war.

And World War I was just a huge dick-waving contest between rulers who were hopelessly out of touch about the realities of modern warfare, and who adopted a good-guy-bad-guy narrative after the fact. We would have stayed out of it if one of those rulers hadn't made the dumb mistake of waving their dick at us. The narrative that there were good guys and bad guys was made up after the fact by the side that happened to win, as is often the case.
I get that take. Still, didn't the US enter to help our better friends?
 

Pocket

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We entered because we caught Germany sending a telegram to Mexico saying "Hey, come fight on our side and if we win, we'll do a victory lap around the US and win you back the land they just took from you." I don't think we particularly cared about anyone on the other side of the pond at that point.
 

Ironbite4

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This is what happens. You stand up to him, he backs down. Every hugging time. He's the softest man in the room.

Ironbite-why anyone capitulates to him I don't understand.
 

wonko the sane?

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He's also a petty, mean, vindictive person. So he's backing down now; but using the MASSIVE LEVER of the US presidency to lean on them later. He'll break every deal that gets made: and use the threat of that as additional leverage against individuals.
 

KidTDragon

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wonko the sane?

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Nope, he's still lying. But it's a weak lie. constitution stands between him and the kingdom he desperately wants: so he will kill it as soon as it's viable.
 

Ironbite4

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Because our schools' biggest problem isn't ever-shrinking budgets, it's the unnecessary burden of having to treat everyone equally.

You know at first I was kinda angry myself at this. Like is this the beginning of the end of segregation for schools in the South? Are we seeing the first salvos shot at Brown vs. Board of Education? Then I kept reading.

The Trump administration called the Plaquemines case an example of administrative neglect. The district in the Mississippi River Delta Basin in southeast Louisiana was found to have integrated in 1975, but the case was to stay under the court’s watch for another year. The judge died the same year, and the court record “appears to be lost to time,” according to a court filing.

“Given that this case has been stayed for a half-century with zero action by the court, the parties or any third-party, the parties are satisfied that the United States’ claims have been fully resolved,” according to a joint filing from the Justice Department and the office of Louisiana Attorney General Liz Murrill.

Ironbite-I'm all for sounding alarms when Trump et al does things but I'm not sure this is something to be screaming about.
 

CoffeeHorse

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The man does love movies yet tends to wildly miss the point, so it's possible that this is exactly what happened.
 


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