Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Axaday

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Well, I mean even about like a school shooting or something. It seems like he finds out about everything from a reporter. Maybe I didn't use to have the access, but I wonder if maybe he has said he doesn't want people hanging around telling him stuff. Maybe it is because he wants someone else to write an answer for him. Maybe it isn't really that odd because reporters are always hearing news and they go straight to get a soundbyte.
 

CoffeeHorse

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Honestly, I probably don't know about the latest school shooting either. By the time I could look it up there will probably be another one. They last 5 minutes in the news now.
 

wonko the sane?

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Trumps plausible deniability is literally his MO. If he doesn't know, he's not liable when it goes south cause it was illegal, immoral, inhumane, or dumb enough to make the people who think the first three are perfectly fine call him out for it.
 

NovaSaber

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When a firefighter dies in the line of duty, a small team of federal health workers is often called on to pinpoint what went wrong and identify how to avoid similar accidents in the future.

That’s what happened after two firefighters died in California in 2020 while searching for an elderly woman in a burning library. It happened in 2023 when a Navy firefighter died in Maryland after a floor collapsed in a burning home. And it happened last year in Georgia when a career battalion chief died after a semitrailer truck exploded.

But President Donald Trump’s administration has taken steps to fire nearly all of the Department of Health and Human Services employees responsible for conducting those reviews.
 

Rhinox

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Trumps plausible deniability is literally his MO. If he doesn't know, he's not liable when it goes south cause it was illegal, immoral, inhumane, or dumb enough to make the people who think the first three are perfectly fine call him out for it.
Exactly. This has been his go-to, basic legal strategy from day one. Plausible deniability. It can make some lower level legal jive go away and it provides an excellent ground to build a larger defense if one is needed.
This is nothing but strategy. The irony is, with his fading mental condition, it will probably be more true than false more and more.
 

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Hitler was also fond of giving vague orders and leaving it up to his underlings to figure out what the hell he actually wanted done, and he kept at it well past the point where he had no one left to be accountable to or plausibly deny accusations from. It's very likely that Trump genuinely doesn't care about the specifics because in his mind he's too important to actually do his damn job.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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It's the latter, and it's deliberate. The current strategy is to get things done before a judge can hear about it. So Trump just sets the direction, and even he doesn't need to hear what the plan is or how and when it's happening until it's already too late for a court to undo.

Trumps plausible deniability is literally his MO. If he doesn't know, he's not liable when it goes south cause it was illegal, immoral, inhumane, or dumb enough to make the people who think the first three are perfectly fine call him out for it.
I consider this so obvious that I'm mildly surprised it has to be a discussion. Trump is setting things up so that he can do everything he wants, but when push-back comes, it's always going to be someone else who has to take the fall for it.

What's perhaps more suprising is that there are so many minions who seem unaware that they're being made patsies.
 

Dekafox

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Also CFPB is basically a yoyo at this point... this is the second time they've been illegally fired and forced to be re-hired: https://nteu335.org/2025/04/28/courts-invalidate-vought-and-doges-mass-firings-of-cfpb-workers/

Also also
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For reference, 2024 Q3 was a 3.1% growth, and Q4 was 2.3%. And this was before the April tariffs. One other thing to note though is that companies rushing to avoid the first round of tariffs spiked imports, which counts as negative GDP growth technically, so that does factor into this a bit too.
 

wonko the sane?

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Congrats folks! It's an orange, spray tanned recession!

It's disgusting and needs to be put out of our misery.
 

Axaday

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It won't be a recession officially for 3 more months, but if it becomes official in 3 months it will be retroactive to now.
 

KidTDragon

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It won't be a recession officially until Trump's out of office. And it'll be the new guy's fault for tanking the big, beautiful economy that Trump left them.
 

Pocket

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Yeah, because half the world joined forces, stripped their economies to the bone to fund a war effort, and spent over half a decade killing his followers by the tens of thousands with weapons of mass destruction. Hope by itself is worth less than nothing. Put up or shut up.
 

Dekafox

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Just to expand on the GDP stuff and give an idea of the historical trend, here's a chart showing the past two years:
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