Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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Most of these executive actions are illegal. I think we've glossed over a lot of that. This whole stopping payments, removing access, these are things the President, by the Constitution, cannot do. Trump is doing them.
Congress is supposed to stop this. Instead they're sitting on the sidelines either cheering or willfully turning a blind eye.
And we have yet to plumb the depths of his pettiness. These next 4 years are going to be all about just how much he can dish out to everyone he's ever had a grievance against. And with Congress in his pocket, there is no check or balance to stop him.
Congress is supposed to stop this. Instead they're sitting on the sidelines either cheering or willfully turning a blind eye.
And we have yet to plumb the depths of his pettiness. These next 4 years are going to be all about just how much he can dish out to everyone he's ever had a grievance against. And with Congress in his pocket, there is no check or balance to stop him.
The US government is built on the idea of good faith. That the people are there because they want to do the job, do it for the people, do it well.
It's not, once trump is removed all future laws and protocols needs to written based on the lack of good faith, and politicians need treated the same way employers treat first time offenders: constant oversight, constant threat of removal, constant assumption of criminality. Even the good ones cannot be forgiven for the sins of the bad ones.
It's not, once trump is removed all future laws and protocols needs to written based on the lack of good faith, and politicians need treated the same way employers treat first time offenders: constant oversight, constant threat of removal, constant assumption of criminality. Even the good ones cannot be forgiven for the sins of the bad ones.
Oversight is actually the whole reason the system of checks and balances was implemented. Unfortunately the implementation had some major flaws, so here we are.
Never mind, I was wrong, the tariffs start on tuesday.
CBS agrees to hand over '60 Minutes' Harris interview transcripts to FCC
President Donald Trump had sued CBS for $10 million over the “60 Minutes” interview, claiming it was deceptively edited to make Kamala Harris look good.apnews.com
I know this isn't the worst thing to happen this week by far, but geez, how petty do you have to be to still be pursuing this?
It is certainly possible that CBS edited it to make her look good, but her opponent made he look better.
The courts are supposed to stop it and they are.
That ship sailed a long time ago. There are things you can't do without "declaring war", but the last time the USA declared war was December 1941. Ever since then we have just gone around taking care of business.
After Vietnam the president wasn't allowed to keep troops in combat situations over 60 days without the OK of Congress. If Congress tells him to make them stand down the President has 30 days to withdraw troops from the conflict. Will the CURRENT congress do that....
The checks and balances between legislative, executive, and judicial houses, as designed, all assume those houses would never all be controlled by the same people at once. And none of them were ever designed to be fast.
Also:
Oil is included.
Also:
Oil is included.
Yeah but we've never tried annexing an entire foreign nation that way. And I do remember Congress signing off on whatever we did in Iraq that was not technically a war. There was a whole to-do about presidential hopeful John Kerry being among the people who had done so.
Yes, they had to pass a spending bill. If you are going full-on war-like, it is more expensive than just what the President has the ability to send people to do.
My brother works for an American company that manufactures overseas. They moved a lot from China to Mexico when Trump started Chinese tariffs. Now they'll be stuck paying Mexican tariffs at least for a while. Meanwhile their biggest foreign competitor is manufacturing where there are no tariffs. So the foreign company is being protected from the American company.
Didn't one our posters say that they voted for Trump because he would benefit his family? I wonder how that's working out for him now.
I imagine he is cool with it so far. Specifically, his family had had direct trouble with some local undocumented people. I think what Trump is doing so far is exactly what he wanted.
He was also presented facts and fled the politics forum, I doubt we'll find out.
There are no rules about how someone is supposed to decide their vote. He had strong personal feelings about this issue. Unless he was lying about his feelings, I don't think presenting facts was very important there. If your number one priority is getting rid of undocumented residents, you seem to have a promise made and a promise being kept here.
There was never a time when I think history was going to view Trump with much indulgence, but he does seem to be rewriting his bio right now. In the 4 interim year, everyone was still feeling very emotional and his supporters felt he had almost saved the world and his detractors felt he had almost ruined it, but if he had stayed one term, the story would have eventually been that he'd been an ineffective President, accomplishing only a conservative swing to the court that set some things behind for a generation, but most of his promises had not been kept, he hadn't shown any real leadership, and there was no sign of much effort to accomplish anything.
He is not on that course this time.
He is not on that course this time.