Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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Until he pardons them the way he pardoned the Jan 6 insurrectionists.
And that's just the start. Just like the brownshirts were just a temporary measure until the Nazi Genocide-Disguised-as-Deportation Machine got up and running. Oh yeah, about that... I learned recently that Nazi Germany wasn't exactly up front with its own citizens about what was going to happen to all the people they were rounding up. They actually claimed they were being deported. So uh, when news starts dropping about mass deportations... you'd better take it with a serious grain of salt that they're actually getting sent back to Mexico or Ukraine or wherever.
For that matter, I don't think it's going to be immigrants, or even minorities generally, who will be the main target. Trump's bigotry, while one of his primary qualities, is still nothing compared to the size of his ego. His main goal in establishing that he can strip anyone he wants of their citizenship, and by extension their right to continue living in this country, is to eliminate anyone who doesn't like him.
For that matter, I don't think it's going to be immigrants, or even minorities generally, who will be the main target. Trump's bigotry, while one of his primary qualities, is still nothing compared to the size of his ego. His main goal in establishing that he can strip anyone he wants of their citizenship, and by extension their right to continue living in this country, is to eliminate anyone who doesn't like him.
It is interesting to watch all of them together. Melania, Ivanka, and Don Jr can tune it out and go inside their heads. Tiffany doesn't seem to mind being there. Eric is paying close attention, seldom looking away from the speaker.
Donald doesn't enjoy inside his head, so he's not going in there. I think his demeanor is pretty typical of people who have to sit through a sermon involuntarily. He doesn't go to Church. He doesn't want to be there. He doesn't want to hear what this lady has to day. But he doesn't have anything to do and he's miserable. Add on that it is very hard for a narcissist to endure criticism and she skirts in on that. I don't think he has an active thought life, so he can't just start thinking about something he read earlier. He's just pinned on a pew.
I accidentally clicked a link it gives at the end that has different cameras. Vance is on the other side of Melania and he gives Donald a bit of side eye, probably trying to gauge Trump's reaction without drawing too much attention. For most of it, Vance look like he is enduring a scolding and trying not to get in worse trouble.
I typically have thought of Melania was someone who married him for his money and despises him and is embarrassed by him, but watching this it does appear that she likes him.
At 9 minutes, the service is over and reporters catch Donald outside. They ask what he thought of the service and his answer is quintessential Donald. "What did YOU think? Did you like it? Did you find it exciting?.....Not too exciting, was it? I didn't think it was a good service, no. Thank you very much. They could do much better"
Perhaps when the economy and immigration and the wars are all fixed, he will have time next week to fix Church.
Edit - I wouldn't have cast Tig Notaro in this role, but she brought it off well as always.
Donald doesn't enjoy inside his head, so he's not going in there. I think his demeanor is pretty typical of people who have to sit through a sermon involuntarily. He doesn't go to Church. He doesn't want to be there. He doesn't want to hear what this lady has to day. But he doesn't have anything to do and he's miserable. Add on that it is very hard for a narcissist to endure criticism and she skirts in on that. I don't think he has an active thought life, so he can't just start thinking about something he read earlier. He's just pinned on a pew.
I accidentally clicked a link it gives at the end that has different cameras. Vance is on the other side of Melania and he gives Donald a bit of side eye, probably trying to gauge Trump's reaction without drawing too much attention. For most of it, Vance look like he is enduring a scolding and trying not to get in worse trouble.
I typically have thought of Melania was someone who married him for his money and despises him and is embarrassed by him, but watching this it does appear that she likes him.
At 9 minutes, the service is over and reporters catch Donald outside. They ask what he thought of the service and his answer is quintessential Donald. "What did YOU think? Did you like it? Did you find it exciting?.....Not too exciting, was it? I didn't think it was a good service, no. Thank you very much. They could do much better"
Perhaps when the economy and immigration and the wars are all fixed, he will have time next week to fix Church.
Edit - I wouldn't have cast Tig Notaro in this role, but she brought it off well as always.
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Anyone have John Bolton being the first person the leopards ate the face of? I didn't.
abcnews.go.com
Also Trump pardoned the guy who created the Silk Road because.....reasons.
Ironbite-GREAT FIRST TWO DAYS!
John Bolton says Trump removed his Secret Service detail
President Donald Trump has terminated Secret Service protection for his former national security adviser John Bolton, Bolton said Tuesday.
abcnews.go.com
Also Trump pardoned the guy who created the Silk Road because.....reasons.
Ironbite-GREAT FIRST TWO DAYS!
To him, "nasty in tone" means "didn't kiss my ass."
I'm not religious so I see the very existence of the National Prayer Service to be a little archaic and didn't bother to watch it BUT my understanding is she was calling for mercy and understanding. If Trump takes that as a slight against him it's just another piece of evidence that he isn't a good person.(As if there wasn't a huge pile of the stuff already)
As I said previously, his behavior during the sermon was just straight up disrespectful. I'm certain someone had to explain to him what was said because it was clear he hadn't been paying attention. And now that he knows it was something he wouldn't like it was "nasty". Nasty is his catch all word for anything that may be critical of him. His vocabulary isn't that great.
You can just watch a minute of either clip posted here. I have ADHD and can sympathize with his boredom, but grownups who wear suit jackets don't usually comment publicly that they were bored at church or at any solemn event or really anywhere.
You would find nothing offensive in any part that I watched. She just talks about how people are different, but we have to find ways to work together toward shared goals. She alludes to there being internal and external threats to unity right now and trends that threaten truth. Then she asks him to show mercy to LGBTQ+ and immigrants in general and also undocumented. She says that some of them are scared for their lives right now and that is certainly what he liked least about the sermon, but her tone and demeanor are very mild, bordering on bland. She didn't raise her voice or scowl. She doesn't even SAY that he is a threat to unity, truth, or marginalized people. She just asks him to show some mercy. She MIGHT have said that to any new President.
I GUESS that he has supporters that will see his "Truth" and just say, "Oh, those woke liberals!" and aren't going to go listen. But I just don't think there is any point in bringing it up to those people anyway. Maybe the news cycle was saying that he got a little scolding and he wanted to ablate that? Or, I guess I am overthinking it. Maybe he was just nettled and needed to hit back.
You might recall about 8 years ago Mike Pence went to see Hamilton and the cast gave him a special plea that he was watching a show that was celebrating diversity, but some of America's diversity was concerned about the incoming Trump/Pence administration and asked Pence to have mercy. Trump complained to social media that they had disrespected Pence. Pence said he wasn't offended, because that's what an experienced politician does in a situation like that. You can make it look like it really had nothing to do with you, the other person was just voicing their concerns and you listened. Because people actually know that marginalized groups ALWAYS have some concerns about a new administration that hasn't fully shown their hand yet. Pence played it off correctly, but Trump couldn't stand it. I think if I were Pence being asked about it that night, I think I would have tried to pretend that I thought they were referring to the line about John Adams not having a real job.
Priest had an opportunity to make a plea on behalf of the things she believed in, which is literally the job of a priest. She took her shot is all.
He turns to Melania to tell a joke a few times and he looks over his program, but I think he is mainly listening. He looks at the speaker a lot and has some facial tells.
I feel weird about mitigating you, because I don't like the man one bit more than you do, but I have ADHD and I fidget at church. I wouldn't like to hear what people said if they watched me on camera.
I do not want the job of being Trump's image coach. I wouldn't do that job for him. But I wonder in moment like this whether he has significant amounts of supporters that feel better about him from reading that "Truth" or whether they just at best forgive him for it because of other charms. My conventional wisdom is that he diminishes himself in the eyes of both sides with a thing like that, but I don't maybe have my finger totally on the pulse. I am very familiar with Bible-belt evangelicals and with non-religious blue collar workers. I don't think the former likes to hear him say a so-called Bishop was boring or not smart, even if she is a woman and a liberal, neither of which are much appreciated in a preacher. I'm not really SURE what the latter think, but my gut says they just shrug it off as church being church. The non-religious blue collar worker in Oklahoma generally believes that churches are a good thing for women and children, but churches here are conservative. They may be aware that this isn't necessarily the case on the east coast.
His supporters are a cult and they will agree with anything the leader says. It's as simple as that.