Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Anonymous X

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Tariffs aren’t going to work out well for anyone.
 

Pocket

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Well, car parts. No one ships entire cars over the ocean anymore except to places like Australia. Other than enthusiasts buying foreign cars that are over 25 years old for the novelty value.
 

Ungnome

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That might actually be the case in MD. There are a lot of people with a lot of disposable income in parts of MD. I live in MD and I've been tempted to get myself a kei van, but those are Japanese, not German and I don't exactly have the cash on hand to pull the trigger(even though, price wise, they are quite a bit cheaper than most German imports would be).
 

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Showerthought: Would Trump even be allowed to impose tariffs on Canada or Mexico? I thought NAFTA, and the USMCA that replaced it, makes it impossible to do that without negotiating a new trade agreement. Which obviously Canada and Mexico are not going to agree to if there's nothing in it for them.

In fact, I kind of wonder if Trump's actual plan is to do the same thing he did during his first term: propose massive sweeping changes (without saying what changes exactly, only that they would be massive and sweeping), actually make only superficial ones, and bask in the media's adoration for displaying
 

Pale Rider

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FB friend:
People need to stop analyzing "why Trump won" as if there are rational reasons. Trump won because there are too many stupid people in America. Take away the tens of millions of deranged half-wit evangelical religious fanatics who think he was Chosen By God, and his (slim) margin of victory disappears.

Yes, taking away this bloc wouldn't reduce his support base to zero, but so what? It would have turned his victory into a loss, so it's completely fair to say that he won because of these insane cretins.

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Axaday

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So apparently there is a never-before-used Presidential power to force the Senate into recess. There is talk now that Trump might use that if the Senate doesn't agree to his nominees. That will surely not fly with the Supreme Court. It was the conservatives that ruled in 2014 that only the Christmas recess would count.

I kind of home he tries it.

I think it is clear to anyone who isn't a numbskull that the ability to make recess appointments is a stop gap in case of a critical job that gets vacated when the Senate cannot perform its normal duty. You couldn't use it to appoint someone that they had already "advised" against or wait until their recess and then have an emergency need to fill the job. Actually SHUTTING DOWN the Senate so that you can have an emergency...
 

KidTDragon

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So apparently there is a never-before-used Presidential power to force the Senate into recess. There is talk now that Trump might use that if the Senate doesn't agree to his nominees. That will surely not fly with the Supreme Court.
I'll take that bet.
 

Wheelimus

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Yeah, this Supreme Court may well rubber stamp Trump's plan, whatever piece of evil it is.
 

Ungnome

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I'm not 100% sure on that. The Supreme Court has been a bit of a wildcard since Trump left office the first time. They'll tow the line on one case and then make a surprise decision on the next. We shall see. Not sure why the President would even have the authority to force congress into recess anyway. The only way for him to even come into the conversation is if say the House votes to adjourn but the Senate does not, or vice versa(remember, Rick Scott is the only contender for Senate majority leader who seems to be willing to go along with the plan to rubber stamp all of Trump's nominees, and I don't think he has the votes to get the position). Given the narrow margins in the House and the fact that the Senate's lead isn't huge, I do have a little faith that Trump won't be given the chance to adjourn congress.
 

Axaday

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It is mostly the same Supreme Court and the conservatives were the most against it. All 9 were against it.
 


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