Even then, Trump's cult won't bother to ask for proof of residence.
Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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Donald Trump vows to impose 25% tariff on all products from Canada and Mexico
President-elect Donald Trump said he would impose a tariff on products from Canada and Mexico until they stop flow of drugs, migrant crossings.
www.usatoday.com
it's bad enough seeing the recession coming with no way to stop it; knowing the stupidest out of touch ************s are leading us into it hurts all the more.
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He signed it into law himself and still isn't following it.
If I'm reading the law right (and verifythis.com is awesome for linking to both the amendment and the law) there is no prescribed punishment. It just means Trump and his team aren't considered anything more than civilians right now. This goes away when Trump when Trump gets sworn in, but it means he and his staff will have to spend day 1 learning how their jobs work instead of learning now so they already know what to do on day 1 and can just do it.
The idea is supposed to be that we never have a single day when the White House isn't staffed by people who are up to speed on what their departments are doing. Day 1 is supposed to mean they just start officially doing what they've already been unofficially doing for weeks.
We just have to hope there is nothing important going on in the world that's in the intelligence briefings this team isn't getting right now.
The idea is supposed to be that we never have a single day when the White House isn't staffed by people who are up to speed on what their departments are doing. Day 1 is supposed to mean they just start officially doing what they've already been unofficially doing for weeks.
We just have to hope there is nothing important going on in the world that's in the intelligence briefings this team isn't getting right now.
He ain't POTUS until he's inaugurated.
Donald Trump vows to impose 25% tariff on all products from Canada and Mexico
President-elect Donald Trump said he would impose a tariff on products from Canada and Mexico until they stop flow of drugs, migrant crossings.www.usatoday.com
it's bad enough seeing the recession coming with no way to stop it; knowing the stupidest out of touch ************s are leading us into it hurts all the more.
25% tariffs, on produce from the countries where the US sources most of their food imports? The inflation caused by Covid and the war in Ukraine is going to be nothing compared to what’s coming. The cost of basic living is going to sky rocket, and not just in the States. People have no idea what is about to him them.
The only silver lining is that the hardships MIGHT just wake enough people up so that we can start dismantling the far right machines that have lead us here. You can only push lower class citizens so far before they fight back. It's gonna get ugly, it's gonna get violent and it all could have been avoided.....
Or they're going to blame everything on Democrats like they've been programmed to do and things will continue to get worse.
That only works for so long. When you have a government trifecta and things continue to get worse, it becomes more and more difficult to shift the blame. Even Fox News and its more extreme cousins can only deceive so much. It wasn't the Fox viewers that allowed Trump to win, it was the Democrats running on essentially a 'republican-lite' platform. If they had shifted left and TRUELY focused on bolstering low/middle class labor voters instead of appeasing the middle and trying to rope in moderate republicans, we could have had different results. We lost because left leaning voters stayed home and those on the fence were still upset about inflation and Trump yelled the loudest that he could 'fix it'.
Wonko said it best, but I do want to emphasis this. Trump and his team, especially Steven (don't look in the closet, you'll see my bedsheet hood) Miller, are going to do everything they can do deport anyone who doesn't fit their image of white and successful. The outright statements against birthright citizenship alone should terrify anyone with any sort of latino origins. Or with family in the country that fits the bill.
Again, this is a FAFO moment and i have no sympathy. Y'all voted in droves for him, enjoy the internment camps. I refuse to shed a tear for those who put him back into power just to suffer at his hands. Enough people warned you. You deliberately chose ignorance.
I can't help but to feel at least a little sorry for them, assuming they realize they made a mistake and don't double down on supporting the one who put them in the camps. Now I do feel MORE sorry for the ones in the same situation who voted against Trump, but still I can have compassion for those suffering, even if their own actions caused their suffering.
Has anyone ever coherently explained what they think an America without Birthright citizenship looks like?
I'm an American citizen because I was born here. If pressed, I could get my Birth Certificate to prove it. But if Birthright citizenship is revoked, then am I only a citizen if my parents were citizens? And even then only if my parents were here legally? Which means going back another generation...
I feel like Trump and his allies have a dream of revoking Birthright citizenship retroactively, but that would be such an absolute clusterf**k in practice.
I'm an American citizen because I was born here. If pressed, I could get my Birth Certificate to prove it. But if Birthright citizenship is revoked, then am I only a citizen if my parents were citizens? And even then only if my parents were here legally? Which means going back another generation...
I feel like Trump and his allies have a dream of revoking Birthright citizenship retroactively, but that would be such an absolute clusterf**k in practice.
I don't. Not anymore.
I live in Kansas. On my commute I pass no less than 10 houses with Trump flags, several of which also fly flags saying things like, "hug your Feelings" and the like. The picture below is from Topeka, my hometown. This is where we are at. Trump supporters love being abrasive, cruel, and derogatory. And this is not new behavior. Again, I have no sympathy for anyone who voted for the leopard after being well aware of his history of eating faces.
When they suffer under his "leadership", and they will, I will enjoy my schadenfreude while also dealing with the fallout of his election. I absolutely plan to point and laugh every ******* time. Rub their noses in it and tell them this is what they voted for, what they wanted. hug them. hug them all. They can all enjoy the hells they welcomed with open arms.
Funny thing is the 14th amendment is pretty clear that birthright citizenship is valid.
It seems pretty clear cut to me. Be interested to see what kind of mental gymnastics they will have to go through to say it says something different than what it says. It also means that all illegal aliens have a right to due process. It says any person, not any citizen.
How do republicans define "person"?
Cause I'll happily bet the answer won't shock anyone with its bigotry and racism.
Cause I'll happily bet the answer won't shock anyone with its bigotry and racism.
At the very least they can't revoke birthright citizenship legally for the same reason they can't remove the two term limit: it requires a constitutional amendment and even if they force it through legislature, they would still need enough states to ratify it. Though that doesn't mean certain parties can't and won't effectively ignore it until or unless challenged, and then use the delay it would take to get through the courts to FA more before they FO.
If you revoke birthright citizenship, then there goes the citizenship of literally the 90+% of Americans who didn't come here in their lifetime and go through the naturalization process. Which means once his ego achieves its final form, he has grounds to deport everyone who refuses to acknowledge his godhood. (I'm sure he'll have revoked naturalization status as well by then.)
That could happen, but I’ve seen what’s happened with Brexit here. The blame for all the economic carnage was deflected elsewhere by TPB, and the “the government aren’t doing it properly/it was never enacted” narrative by prominent Brexiteers drowns out everything in the media. Then the then-opposition, now the government, basically adopted the rightwing, nationalist outlook and policy book to the letter, just with a different rhetorical spin.