Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

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Tuxedo Prime

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wonko the sane?

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I was wondering that myself. Trump has repeatedly proven that no rule will stop him getting what he wants at the moment, and has no concept of consequences. Given how badly vance is turning out, I would have figured trump woulda dumped him. What's keeping him there?
 

Ungnome

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Trump is disconnected from reality, probably thinks he made the right choice still.
 

Steevy Maximus

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Vance strikes me as an ass-kissing yes man. I don’t think Trump really cares how popular or unpopular he is. Trump thinks he, himself, is enough to win and that would place Vance into the Senate with healthy degree of power and is enough of a mook to go along with whatever Trump wants so long as Vance gets to keep his relative power and importance.
 

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Trump is screwed if he doesn't win and he knows it. He can delay his trials long enough to get him to the election, but he won't be able to avoid them forever.

That's why I think he might get desperate enough to replace Vance with someone who improves his chances.
 

wonko the sane?

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I hope trump does it regardless of the legality of it. Imagine how many people would be lining up for that job: second choice to the waste of carbon vance, AND ridiculously easy to replace? Trump will have to name one of his sons to it: and the public already knows they suck.
 

Pale Rider

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Trump doesn't like having anyone around him that he can't simply fire. I bet having a VP that he can't do that to frustrates him to no end, but he has to win the election first for his running mate to have that level of immunity. If he's going to do it, he's going to have to do it soon.
 

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On the one hand ditching Vance means he'd have to admit to making a mistake. On the other, he consumes cable news and other media religiously so you know he's seeing all these terrible polls and criticism of his VP pick. Which one is the bigger affront to his ego? Normally at worst a VP just doesn't move the needle because no one cares, but JD's turning into something of a liability so ditching him would be more like cutting off a gangrenous limb to stop the spread of damage.

I think he probably sticks it out, but with anyone else I'd say there's no chance they ditch their VP after the convention because it would make them ridiculous, with Trump I think there's still a possibility even if very slim one that JD announces he's decided to resign from the campaign to spend more time with his family or fakes a temporary illness.
 

wonko the sane?

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For trump to have buyers remorse, he would have to actually pay for something.

But yeah: he's probably regretting vance, and cursing out his idiot sons for demanding him.
 

Pale Rider

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At least he can scapegoat them when he loses, for all that'll be worth when he's facing several criminal trials.

I wonder if another election loss will finally get the GOP to cut him loose.
 

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I think he can do it without admitting he made a mistake, since the circumstances of the election have obviously completely changed. The first and most remembered job of the VP candidate is to debate the other VP candidate. He can swear that Vance was the right pick for the job, but the job has changed.
 


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