Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
It's a good thing vance brings absolutely nothing to the campaign to benefit or advantage the fascists.
 

Teufel

Active member
Citizen
By the By... trump didn't get shot. His ear was hit with shrapnel from the teleprompter that actually WAS shot.

Eh, still to be determined.


Anyway, as for Vance, probably the most underwhelming pick he could make. I mean it's doubtful a VP pick would matter for Trump other than energizing the base and even then I don't think Vance has any particular constituency like Pence reassuring evangelicals. He under-performed in his Senate race compared to the governor the same year. All he has for him is being a slick talking opportunist who compared Trump to Hitler before he won in 2016 and then started licking Trump's boots. I guess he goes hard on the populist economic MAGA thing that's got vaguely lefty overtones, but that's not a plus in my book.

I'd say a one term Senator is unqualified to be President of the United States and has no business being VP, but that didn't stop Obama or stop an even less experienced Trump. That kind of standard's long gone.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
Citizen
Exactly. Somehow they see Trump as their Maximus.

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Monique

Guess whos back
Citizen
that describes most of the rep voters these days. They want freedom so they vote for a man who wants to restrict it. They want faith so they vote for a man who is faithless. The want a strong economy so they vote for the man who doesn't know how to run a business let alone a country.

I don't care how 'sleepy' joe is. I'd rather have him asleep at the wheel than Trump purposefully driving us off a cliff.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
Unless Trump wins in November. Then she gets a Supreme Court seat (at least until King Trump dissolves SCOTUS).
Gaetz actually stated she was a future member of SCOTUS. One of the press actually displayed a touch of intelligence and asked him if this was evidence of quid pro quo. Obviously that ended the interview, but at least it was asked and thrown out there.
 

KidTDragon

Now with hi-res avatar!
Citizen
Gaetz actually stated she was a future member of SCOTUS. One of the press actually displayed a touch of intelligence and asked him if this was evidence of quid pro quo. Obviously that ended the interview, but at least it was asked and thrown out there.
Is there video? I'm not doubting it happened, I just like watching Republicans run away from questions.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
Donald Trump Does Not Get Post-Shooting Poll Boost

Not surprising. When you already have cult like devotion, you can’t *increase* fanaticism.

We just have to get more voters to the polls and we’ll win.
You're halfway there already. You have the more voters. Now you need to get them out.

Help your family and friends check their voter status, and start a ******* car pool list.
 

Teufel

Active member
Citizen
So apparently the building the would-be assassin fired from the rooftop of had three police snipers inside it who had seen him on the ground being suspicious multiple times casing out the building, coming back with a rangefinder, a backpack, etc. So took his picture and sent it up the chain of command but no one intercepted him and he was able to climb onto the roof.

Cops tried to go up after him, but he pointed a rifle their way and they fell. He then opened fire at Trump.

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A sniper from a local tactical team deployed to assist the U.S. Secret Service at former President Donald Trump's rally on Saturday took a picture of the gunman and saw him looking through a rangefinder minutes before he tried to assassinate the former president, a local law enforcement officer with direct knowledge of the events told CBS News.

The sniper was one of three snipers, members of local tactical teams, who were stationed inside the building that the shooter used in the attack, the officer said. The operations plan had them stationed inside, looking out windows toward the rally, scanning the crowd. The details about the three snipers were first reported by the local news outlet BeaverCountian.com.

One sniper inside spotted the gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, outside and looking up at the roof, observing the building and disappearing, according to the officer who spoke to CBS News. The sniper observed Crooks as he returned to the building, sat down and looked at his phone. At that point, one of the local snipers took a picture of Crooks.

Next, the local sniper observed Crooks looking through a rangefinder, an instrument routinely used by marksmen to determine the distance of a target, and he immediately radioed to the command post, according to the local law enforcement officer. The local sniper also attempted to send the photo of the gunman up the chain of command.

The command post, according to multiple law enforcement officials, served as a central hub to streamline communications between U.S. Secret Service and the local officers from nearby state and county police forces. It is unclear if the command post received the alert.

Officials then lost track of Crooks, who disappeared, but soon returned for a third time with a backpack. The local sniper team called for backup — alerting the command post that the gunman had a backpack and was walking toward the back of the building.

By the time other local officers responded to the backup request, the gunman had scaled the building, positioning himself above and behind the local snipers inside the building, according to the officer.

Two other municipal police officers who heard the call for back-up attempted to climb onto the roof. Butler County Sheriff Michael Sloupe told CBS Pittsburgh station KDKA that an armed municipal officer with Butler Township was hoisted by another officer onto the roof of the building where the gunman had taken a position. Crooks focused his rifle towards the officer who ultimately let go, falling off the roof. Moments later, the shooter began firing into the crowd.

The director of the Secret Service says no one was stationed on the roof because there was a slope and it wasn't safe, even though there was a more significant slope on the roof of the building behind Trump where snipers were stationed and shot the assassin from.

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Embattled Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle says she has no plans to resign, even after the stunning revelation that the agency decided not to guard the roof from which Thomas Crooks opened fire on former President Donald Trump because it was too slanted.

“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she told ABC News in a startling admission.

“And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside,” she told the outlet.

Cheatle admitted the agency knew the building rooftop was a security vulnerability but still opted not to position agents there, leaving it wide open for Crooks to take up an ideal sniper perch with an unobstructed view of Trump on stage.

From the roof, Crooks had a clear line of sight to the GOP nominee with his AR-style semiautomatic rifle, about 130 yards away.


Picture of the building the assassin fired from vs Trump's stage.

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Not a security expert, but I'd probably lock down roof access to buildings across from Trump with clear lines of sight. This was at a rural fairground, this doesn't seem like a Herculean task.
 


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