Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[CoffeeHorse]

Both are rambling incoherently. But the energy levels here are very different.

This debate sucks. Biden is very low energy and occasionally rambles into complete incoherence. Trump is high energy but I don't think he's directly answered a single question.

 

[Ungnome]

Of course it did. A geriatric narcissist with a total disregard for the truth was debating a geriatric man with a stutter and focus issues. Makes me long for the days we had candidates who were actually eloquent speakers. I may have had some issues with some of Obama's policies, but his frequent uhhhs were still a million times better than what we've been getting since.

 

[Dekafox]

Eh, there was nothing new to be gained here anyways. Everyone has seen both of them in the hot seat, and heard plenty from them over the years. Neither is new or unknown, so it's just reruns of an old TV show where everyone already knows all the lines. The only thing to be gained here is popcorn time and ratings from people hate-watching or watching for "their guy".

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

We desperately need age limits on elected officials. I'm still voting against Trump, but holy hell.

 

[wonko the sane?]

He knows he's going to win.

He won because he wasn't held to any any reasonable standard and biden was held to a ridiculous one. He won because mainstream media is desperate to foster a ******* horse race where there shouldn't be one.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Here folks, take it from someone better steeped in US politics.

 

[Pocket]

I just realized. Trump has already had the first debate; the second is supposed to be between running mates... except Trump hasn't actually picked his yet. Which reminded me that usually they announce their running mates at the convention. Which made me wonder when that was.

It's not till next month.

WHY WAS THIS DEBATE SO EARLY?

 

[Teufel]

I just realized. Trump has already had the first debate; the second is supposed to be between running mates... except Trump hasn't actually picked his yet. Which reminded me that usually they announce their running mates at the convention. Which made me wonder when that was.

It's not till next month.

WHY WAS THIS DEBATE SO EARLY?

Both campaigns had a lot of complaints about the 2020 debates so since it's the same candidates this time around they hashed out their own agreement that iced out the commission that had been organizing these for decades. Both sides wanted earlier debates because it's not 1984 anymore and on the previous schedule some of the debates happened after mail in ballots had already been cast. Also by moving the dates up helped add a bit of safety net in case someone did terrible. Now there's still months left instead of weeks until election day.

Next presidential debate is sometime in September if they stick to it. I haven't actually heard anything about a VP debate. I don't know if they didn't bother scheduling one yet?

 

[Pocket]

If both candidates have to agree to participate in the debate, it can't very well be scheduled before both participants have even been chosen.

 

[MegaMagnus]

 

[Teufel]

If both candidates have to agree to participate in the debate, it can't very well be scheduled before both participants have even been chosen.

It can when both parties have front runners whose victories are foregone conclusions and no real primary competition.

 

[abates]

I guess at least it's nice they got one debate in before one of the candidates goes to prison and has to attend future debates via Zoom.

Also nice to see there are still parts of the US media with some perspective:

To serve his country, Donald Trump should leave the race | Editorial Board

Biden had a horrible night Thursday. But the debate about the debate is misplaced. The only person who should withdraw from the race is Trump.

www.inquirer.com

 

[KidTDragon]

That's adorable that they think Trump has any interest in serving the country.

 

[wonko the sane?]

His entire campaign has been based on nothing but lies: why would that change now?

 

[KidTDragon]

His entire campaign life has been based on nothing but lies: why would that change now?

Fixed that for ya.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

The only thing Trump is interested in serving is himself.

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

Trump has been out of office for 3½ years and his presidency is still harming peoples' civil rights today, as seen by recent Supreme Court rulings. I can't believe people think it's seriously worth risking this asshole in office a second time, just because they're disappointed with Biden.

A used diaper would be a better president than Trump.

 

[DefaultOption]

Yup. I would vote for the proverbial ham sandwich if that was what was on the (D) line in November.

 

[NovaSaber]

And the joke about what Tmurp has in common with the used diaper is too easy.

 

[Paladin]

And there it is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/01/nyregion/trump-sentence-hush-money.html?unlocked_article_code=1.300.3A0_.wNqcNLRotChA&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

Supreme Court handed Donald a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card.