Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

wonko the sane?

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The first of half the states. I expect texas will have biden removed from the ballot before the sun rises in retaliation.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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It will be harder for Texas to pull that off because, you know, there's no evidence Biden stoked an insurrection in order to stay in power. Not saying they won't try, though.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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The first of half the states. I expect texas will have biden removed from the ballot before the sun rises in retaliation.
I almost hope they do. It would take care of our Biden problem and make them look like spiteful, petty imbeciles in one fell swoop.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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Yeah but would the Democrats even be smart enough to realize the problem that's being created and attempt to run someone else before it's too late, or would they stubbornly and futilely try to get him back on the ballot until the eleventh hour and be left with the actual Republican nominee running unopposed except for a sea of write-ins?
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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I think it's a pretty open secret that Gavin Newsom is running a shadow campaign and I suspect he's doing so with the full blessing of the DNC.
 

wonko the sane?

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Yeah but would the Democrats even be smart enough to realize the problem that's being created and attempt to run someone else before it's too late, or would they stubbornly and futilely try to get him back on the ballot until the eleventh hour and be left with the actual Republican nominee running unopposed except for a sea of write-ins?
I mean, it would be the right thing to do because biden hasn't actually broken any laws. Even if you don't like him, it's the right thing to fight for.

And they'll toss any democrat anyway, and won't stop until a literal insurrectionist is illegally added back to all the ballots across the US. Because it's only a states rights issue until it's standing in the way of what they want.
 

NovaSaber

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wonko the sane?

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They want him to have his revenge tour, because they've been programmed to think the government doesn't help them and it actively out to get them.
 

Anonymous X

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I feel positively ill contemplating that this time next year, Trump is likely to be president-elect. I just don't know how to process that.
 

wonko the sane?

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By this time next year: trump will be a convicted felon and on his way to prison.

The polls are absolutely wrong, the methods are geriatric and don't reflect the voting public any more. Every single day: another handful of people that has been recently wronged by republicans are becoming voting age, and are registering to vote, despite the republican voter suppression, in record numbers. Democrats have over performed in every election since trump first got power, and the news about trumps trials is keeping the reasoning fresh in everyone's minds.

Unless democratic voters get completely and utterly apathetic: there is no path for republicans back into the white house for at least a generation. Scream at every american you know that they absolutely need to vote this time, and trump will get the karma he has long deserved.

Because if they don't vote in '24, they won't get to vote no more.
 

wonko the sane?

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Yeah, really I don't blame you. We're living in the worst time line, and that alone is stressful enough. Never mind the very real threat of american fascism and the collapse in world civility that follows.

Trump has no way back to the white house. No republican has a way into the white house. They can't do it with every remaining republican voter unanimously opting to just support the R president, and more than half of them will hug off if it's not trump. The next nearest candidate was nikki haily and she had SIX PERCENT!

Unless you stay home, unless all the reasonable, sane, rational people decide to stay home on election day: the republicans cannot win. Not in this election, and not until all the trans kids, their mothers, sisters and aunts, and all their allies start dying of old age.

You can end maga and its threat in this coming election cycle. Not in 20 years, not in the coming decade; This year, right now. But it's gonna cost you: it'll cost you time and energy, because you need badger, harass and harangue every single person of voting age you can reach. You need to make sure their registered, you need to make sure they make it to the ballot box on voting day. You need to put in the work: but every time you do, you are literally throwing another shovel full of dirt onto trumps grave, and his gravy seals, his jack boots and his traitors.

Republicans are acting this way because they KNOW it's over if they can't take it all NOW. They are scared and facing oblivion. Sparta their asses into the void that is american history books.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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I honestly don't get how the whole world isn't shitting bricks at the prospect of America's military and nukes being controlled by a totally mask-off Trump dictatorship. There won't be a Mattis or a Kelly around this time. Trump will get his Himmler, Göring and Goebbels instead.
 

Spin-Out

i cant take it anymore im at my limit
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I honestly don't get how the whole world isn't shitting bricks at the prospect of America's military and nukes being controlled by a totally mask-off Trump dictatorship. There won't be a Mattis or a Kelly around this time. Trump will get his Himmler, Göring and Goebbels instead.
you're assuming the people MAGA is most dangerous to aren't within Anerica's borders. they're more interested in genociding immigrants and LGBTQ+ Americans via concentration camps than nuking other countries, and too cowardly to do anything that'd get the international community to bring the hammer down on them.
 

wonko the sane?

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It's more likely than you think.

See, if trump actually takes over and gets his dictatorship: it's going to crash the global economy as former allies and the world moves away from the american dollar as backing. We're not going to openly support fascists, after all. It'll be chaotic and look like the great depression switched its anti-psychotics for steroids. And all those mother fuckers out there just waiting for the US to blink so they can invade their neighbours, or indulge whatever grudge they were holding will jump because the next world power in line honestly does not give a hug if we all kill ourselves, so long as we buy the jive to do it from them. If someone decides "hug it, glass them" it'll trigger mutually assured destruction. Maybe not on the cold war level, but lots of people and places will jump at it. Enough that we really aren't going to be worried about climate change after, anyway.

But it won't happen, for a number of different reasons.

1.) The nazis had a crumbling economy and society and actually rebuilt it. Trump destroyed something that was doing okay.
2.) Magats are functionally a very over represented minority in the US population, and only when "normal" voter turn out happens.
3.) the nazis only really had their mask off moments AFTER they got power (I mean, no one was mistaken about what they were about, just how far extreme they were willing to go.), the magats weren't capable of that. We already know they're cribbing hitlers playbook.

Trumps campaign is almost broke from paying his legal bills, he's completely tapped out the small donation folks years ago, and the BIG money donors aren't going to touch him till after iowa. Even then, they know he's bad for them and the only reason their doing it is because the next closest possible primary candidate is less popular than dying of cancer, and all of them literally have failing campaigns. And even if trump IS still on the ballot: a portion of his ultra loyal has already stated that even 1 conviction (which he will have, he's got 91 indictments.) will be enough to make them walk away. We're not talking about changing votes: we're talking about not voting at all. They won't just up and switch sides; they'll stay home.

It's going to get a LOT worse before it gets better, but so long as you all get as many people out to vote as you can: it will get better. This is the "darkest before the dawn" moment.

VOTE. Get out there and vote. Get your friends to do it, family to do it, neighbours, hell: start abducting random folks off the streets and get them registered. And after the next election, a lot of the obstruction, ignorance and hate literally disappears.
 

CoffeeHorse

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There's always wildcards. Don't underestimate the possibility of a manufactured inflation bomb leading up to the election. Shipping in the Red Sea is currently hugged. If history is any indication, you just know that companies whose shipping is not even slightly affected by this will hike their prices because they can. Any company controlled by GOP donors will do this.
 


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