Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

CoffeeHorse

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They sorta kicked him off the ballot. However:

Therefore, to maintain the status quo pending any review by the U.S. Supreme Court, we stay our ruling until January 4, 2024 (the day before the Secretary’s deadline to certify the content of the presidential primary ballot). If review is sought in the Supreme Court before the stay expires on January 4, 2024, then the stay shall remain in place, and the Secretary will continue to be required to include President Trump’s name on the 2024 presidential primary ballot, until the receipt of any order or mandate from the Supreme Court.

If he appeals by January 4, he's still on the ballot. He's probably going to do that.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Trump doesn't even read the stuff that's written for him to spew on the population. I genuinely wonder how he even got "poisoning the blood of the nation" in the first place.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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G.B.Blackrock

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i dunno. the supreme court's had a "**** you, i got mine" tendency with trump
I will certainly concede that they've gone against him a couple of times, but hardly enough for me to agree with this.

That said, agreement with Trump isn't the issue here. They're all-but certain to take up the case, one way or the other, because it's simply too big for them not to. They may well rule against him (although I'm not taking bets on that), but either way, they'll take up the case.
 

wonko the sane?

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Realistically, there's three outcomes. They take it and rule against trump, they take it and rule for trump, or they deny it and it gets picked up a lower appeals court.

But given the statements already made by lower courts: if they take it up at all (as opposed to just issuing a summary ruling or denying it.) they functionally have to find against trump because finding FOR trump 1.) is a supreme court ruling in favour of authoritarianism, and 2.) a statement that these judges in particular don't feel a need to remain employed, and let's let the fascist create a government which renders them obsolete.

Tyrants don't USE courts, and no one directly votes against their own paycheques.
 

Ironbite4

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I will certainly concede that they've gone against him a couple of times, but hardly enough for me to agree with this.

That said, agreement with Trump isn't the issue here. They're all-but certain to take up the case, one way or the other, because it's simply too big for them not to. They may well rule against him (although I'm not taking bets on that), but either way, they'll take up the case.
Guess you, and most of America, has forgotten that SCOTUS already did answer this question. And it was an astonishing "Yeah we don't interfere with States issues".

Ironbite-which is why he tried the coup in 2020.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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If it gets handed to a lower court, and they find against him, Trump's lawyers will just appeal it back up to SCOTUS anyway. Just taking it up now would save time in the long run. But running out the clock and going for office is Trump's whole plan anyway, so.....
 

wonko the sane?

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While it's probably a bad idea for them to ignore the expediency plea: they had every right to do it.

And who knows; by the time it's taken up, the court might have been purged of some obvious and powerful corruption.
 

MrBlud

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You’d need 2/3rds of the Senate to remove Thomas from the bench.

The more likely impossibility is Democrats getting 60 votes in the Senate to abolish the filibuster and expand the court to 13.
 


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