Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
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The reaper hasn't taken McConnell yet either, so I'm not really taking death into account here. Prepare for the worst and all that.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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There's no scenario where Trump has enough power to unilaterally overturn the 22nd amendment and doesn't just use that power to declare himself dictator for life instead. He's just being an idiot who doesn't think more than negative-two seconds ahead of what he's saying, as usual.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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The point I meant is that if he wins, it'll be his second term. He won't run for a third, so no one runs against him. Unless he decides to run for Governor or Congress, I guess. But I think he'd rather just become a power broker.
Term limits don't mean anything to these people. The constitution does not mean anything to them. No one will run against him, because whomever replaces him will be a handpicked autocrat whose sole purpose will be to ensure there is never a threat to their rule.

You're running on the assumption that they'll abide by the rules: they won't. They already consider themselves above the law (despite the incredibly slow evidence to the contrary.), and have already come within a hairs breadth of having the unquestioned power they want. Now they're scared, desperate animals because not only is there functionally no path back to that power, but the consequences on their actions is facing them down. If they get the power back to ensure they don't have to compromise on anything: they will never give it up willingly.

We got to watch brutus stab caesar, but the guard actually stopped him before brutus got to 18. This was the very real "Fall of the republic, rise of the empire" moment, and it honestly seems like we're not taking the seriousness of the moment to heart.
 

Pocket

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Things a different news outlet's anchor said is news now?
 

Axaday

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It is near perfect stuff to have Trump saying Biden is "cognitively impaired" right AFTER saying he beat Obama in an election and right BEFORE saying Biden may lead us into WW2.

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But isn't it kind of a whiff? If Biden knew how to lead us into WW2, I think an awful lot of Trump's supporters would like to go.
 

Axaday

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I don't think they'd fight the war. I think they just want to finish their days in the 40s and 50s.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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I don't think they'd fight the war. I think they just want to finish their days in the 40s and 50s.
Hmm, I've often thought of the idea of time travel as a tourist industry, but a retirement community sounds like a solid business idea too.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Hmm, I've often thought of the idea of time travel as a tourist industry, but a retirement community sounds like a solid business idea too.
If you've got energy to burn sending people backwards in time: then there is practical and functional immortality already available. Ain't no one retiring under those conditions.
 

The Predaking

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If you've got energy to burn sending people backwards in time: then there is practical and functional immortality already available. Ain't no one retiring under those conditions.

? Not to derail the topic but how does Time travel equal Immortality?
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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One of the potential side effects of exposure to time vortex energy is immortality, though I think it has to be focused in a specific way to achieve said results.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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? Not to derail the topic but how does Time travel equal Immortality?
If you've got the power, the energy, to idly send people through time: you've got the energy to do all kinds of other things: like perfecting biology, space travel, all sorts of crazy computer jive.

Will a human body live forever? No, of course not. Could good medicine and technology extend the human life span ridiculously? Yup. Could good enough technology and computing figure out how to transfer a living human consciousness without breaking continuity? Absolutely. And right there, for probably less effort than sending someone through time: you've effectively made them functionally immortal.

If you've got the power to violate time, you've got the power for functional immortality. Unless time travel turns out to be so ludicrously simple and cheap, there's always better ways to spend that kind of power... Like moving your planet to account for global warming, or getting a high level AI to calculate the last digit of PI before the end of business friday.
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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Actually it can be potentially cheap without allowing for all that other stuff - but with the caveat that it will only link two specific points in time and space.

1) Make a stable wormhole. (This is the big energy part of this, but the tech to produce the exotic matter needed for this doesn't necessarily imply the rest of what you mentioned)
2) Take one end of the wormhole out into space at relavistic speeds for a significant period of time. This slows the flow of time for the traveling end, but both ends of the wormhole would experience the same passage of time as a single object
3) Return and park the wormhole exit back where you started. You can now travel forward and backward in time by the amount of time difference generated by time dilation

And for practical uses of this tech, instant contact and transportation to and from space colonies, with the caveat that to FTL there you have to get there STL first.

Not that useful though for shipping people off to when they think they want to live.
 


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