Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
Citizen
He's a wannabe fascist dictator, isn't that what they all try and do to secure power? The scary part is his followers would cheer such a move on despite the fact that once he pulls something like that off, they won't be any safer from his wrath than anyone else.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
His followers have been programmed to believe that so long as the "insert target community here" are losing, they're winning. Even if it affects them, hurts them, so long as the other guy is suffering they are winning.

The most basic tribal mentality. Literally the monkeys from the monolith scene in 2001: a space odyssey.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
As we already saw with Epstein, if Trump dies, they'll just assume someone in the deep state did it. Probably the Clintons. That will result in any number of nutbars going out to get revenge in whatever way they think is appropriate.
Remember how Iraq didn't turn into a quagmire until after Hussein had been captured and executed and suddenly there were all these leaderless gangs of insurgents making it impossible to drive ten feet without getting blown up?

Yeah, maybe it's better if we let them start a civil war while they still have the capacity to lose.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
Citizen
Trump and his cronies pushed for a later date. They originally wanted to push it until after the election was over entirely. At which point, if he wins, he'll try to pardon himself.

Just watch. When that date rolls around, they'll ask for another delay because he'll be so busy on the campaign trail and can't possibly make it to court. It's the same scheme, just with more steps.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
I recognize that she only put it in the august date so trump could object and look at least viable in the objection. I'm wondering why no one is calling her out for overruling her own date?
 

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
Citizen
I'm still wondering why nobody pushed for her to be removed from the trial entirely, considering who appointed her and her proven biases in previous cases involving him.

The US justice system is a bad joke.
 

Spin-Out

i cant take it anymore im at my limit
Citizen
I think what's even more concerning is that Florida "randomly" assigned it to a deep red district. That part of the state is ******* infested with MAGA white trash and evangelicals.
 

Ironbite4

Well-known member
Citizen
Um...so Cannon's district is Mar-a-Largo so that's why it was assigned there.

Ironbite-it's also why Trump put her there.
 

Spin-Out

i cant take it anymore im at my limit
Citizen
the ft. pierce area is deep red. if tgey're able to select jurists from anywhere in her district, though, West Palm is deep blue.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
Citizen
They won't, though. Even if it causes the entire case to get thrown out and calls for a retrial, that's still to Trumps benefit.

The real question about it now is where the jurors will stand on Trumps vs DeSantis.
 

Spin-Out

i cant take it anymore im at my limit
Citizen
ngl, i get the doomism around this jive, but i sort of doubt this'll go trump's way. again, if he's just charged with sedition or insurrection, he's basically SOL and can't run for office again, and SCOTUS can't do jive about it bc it's in the constitution.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
It's a renegade court though (and once again: I hate that reality has ruined an awesome word.) and if benefits THEM they will happily make treason legal.
 


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