Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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It's slacktivism, and you know it. If these people really cared, they would have went to the ballot box in November. I've done my part, voting for Clinton, Biden, and Harris.
I guess those ***** Hat protests in his first term solved all the problems that women face, and everyone lived happily ever after. Sure is nice to have reproductive freedom protected by the Constitution. And the BLM protests solved racism.
Oh, wait.
I guess those ***** Hat protests in his first term solved all the problems that women face, and everyone lived happily ever after. Sure is nice to have reproductive freedom protected by the Constitution. And the BLM protests solved racism.
Oh, wait.
Which is why people should have taken action in a way that could actually affect change last year. These people just want to make funny signs, and feel like they're part of something.
Protesting absolutely has its place, but most of this is just performative. It's the real world equivalent of posting a meme on social media.
Protesting absolutely has its place, but most of this is just performative. It's the real world equivalent of posting a meme on social media.
I don't live in the past. The same people Spotti wants to write off are the same people who we're gonna need in the midterms. So they made a regrettable vote that they now regret, as shown by how underwater Trump is in every poll. So let's wipe out the House GOP in the midterms and set ourselves up to win in 2028.
Just a numbers game, really. Turnout was not as high as 2020, and everybody knew the danger and chaos that was in store from his first term. So there's no way that everyone who protested today voted against letting that happen again.
I know that we'll need them, there's no question about that. But how many of them will actually vote next year, or in 2028? The American people were the only ones who could have stopped this, but they didn't. They chose apathy, and everyone has to suffer because of that.
And don't get me wrong, I'm happy and impressed that people showed up today. But it's too little, far too late.
Honestly, as someone from outside the US, it’s good that so many people turned out to protest, even if (and I agree) such protests can change almost nothing materially at this point. The optics of seeing footage of the US population resisting rather than lying down and acquiescing, I can’t exaggerate how hopeful that seems to the wider world as America rapidly spirals into becoming a dictatorship.
So, basically, by the time we even get to the mid-terms Project 2025 will be fully in place and the elections won't mean diddly-squat.
Do you know what the difference between project 2025 and regular republican cruelty is?
Republicans are finally working for themselves and not their corporate masters. That's it.
On a semi related note: the guy who created the republican concept of authoritarian technocracy, curtis yarvin... he plans to flee the US cause he's convinced trump is ******* it up. Not the country: his plan. He's going to bail cause trump is ******* up his plan so bad he's convinced it will fail.
Republicans are finally working for themselves and not their corporate masters. That's it.
On a semi related note: the guy who created the republican concept of authoritarian technocracy, curtis yarvin... he plans to flee the US cause he's convinced trump is ******* it up. Not the country: his plan. He's going to bail cause trump is ******* up his plan so bad he's convinced it will fail.
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Marco Rubio really really really wants to invade Venezuela, and he's currently running half the Executive Branch so Trump has to give him something.
First of all, I imagine that most... indeed, the vast majority... of those who took the effort to join a protest DID vote... and vote against Trump... last year. But leave that be.
Here's a much needed counter-argument to the idea that "feel good protests" are ineffective.
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The problem is the success of public protests depends entirely on the people being protested against being rational human beings who have some level of empathy, or at least sense of self-preservation. Qualities that are clearly lacking in our current administration.
While Trump and most of his cronies may rant and rave and give the appearance of being bothered on some narcissistic level by any criticism against them, Steven Miller and the real people in power just hang out in the background slowly implementing Project 2025 and not giving even half a hug about any criticism directed their way. They know they have all the power and there is jack all anybody can do about it as long as they control the DOJ, the Supreme Court, and the military.
While Trump and most of his cronies may rant and rave and give the appearance of being bothered on some narcissistic level by any criticism against them, Steven Miller and the real people in power just hang out in the background slowly implementing Project 2025 and not giving even half a hug about any criticism directed their way. They know they have all the power and there is jack all anybody can do about it as long as they control the DOJ, the Supreme Court, and the military.
I'm feeling like either you didn't read the posts I shared, or you simply had a different takeaway than I did. I'll assume the latter rather than the former.
The way I read it, the mass "feel good protests" serve a societal purpose to give those willing to take stronger actions permission to do so. I'm not suggesting violence, but peaceful protests that actively impede MAGA from doing the things they're currently getting away with doing.
For example, standing in opposition to entrances to courtrooms or prisons were immigrants might be unjustly imprisoned. If more people simply become "dead weight" in these situations (making it difficult for police to arrest and remove them), it makes it more difficult for MAGA to keep doing what they're doing, forcing change out of their own need just to remove the impediments (someone pointed out in that thread, for example, that in all protests yesterday, the protestors outnumbered the police, so we're making the point that MAGA simply can't physically force their way through the way they'd like to).
Not everyone can afford to allow themselves to be imprisoned (for example) to protest injustice, but the more people who feel that they can, the more likely the protests can reach a level where MAGA is forced to respond in new, more productive ways.
The way I read it, the mass "feel good protests" serve a societal purpose to give those willing to take stronger actions permission to do so. I'm not suggesting violence, but peaceful protests that actively impede MAGA from doing the things they're currently getting away with doing.
For example, standing in opposition to entrances to courtrooms or prisons were immigrants might be unjustly imprisoned. If more people simply become "dead weight" in these situations (making it difficult for police to arrest and remove them), it makes it more difficult for MAGA to keep doing what they're doing, forcing change out of their own need just to remove the impediments (someone pointed out in that thread, for example, that in all protests yesterday, the protestors outnumbered the police, so we're making the point that MAGA simply can't physically force their way through the way they'd like to).
Not everyone can afford to allow themselves to be imprisoned (for example) to protest injustice, but the more people who feel that they can, the more likely the protests can reach a level where MAGA is forced to respond in new, more productive ways.