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Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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I'd assume that companies would only be responsible for accidents with self-driving cars they themselves own. Hardly "every single accident that happens in the entire country."
The "driver" is the one with responsibility for an accident if they cause it. With self-driving cars, the person in it is just a passenger. It's going to be a whole new legal funhouse once they start becoming more common.
 

G.B.Blackrock

Well-known member
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The "driver" is the one with responsibility for an accident if they cause it. With self-driving cars, the person in it is just a passenger. It's going to be a whole new legal funhouse once they start becoming more common.
Acknowledged, but we're already talking about having to have new laws created to reflect the new reality, and there's no world in which a new law would require anyone "to pay for every single accident that happens in the entire country," There's already diversification in the companies that run these kinds of cars. If there's blame to be assigned, and if it's not to the passenger, the owner of the vehicle is a strong possibility. There are other options, but none of them involve paying for more accidents than can legitimately be tied to the specific incidents in question.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
I think Blackrock is being purposely obtuse and misinterpreting my statement as saying each company, individually, would be responsible for their own products as well as everyone else's. That every time a Tesla car crashes, for example, not only will Tesla have to pay for it, but every other car company in existence will also be charged that same amount just out of spite, I guess? Like if you take my wording 100% literally, an AI or Amelia Bedelia might assume that's what I meant.
 

G.B.Blackrock

Well-known member
Citizen
I think Blackrock is being purposely obtuse and misinterpreting my statement as saying each company, individually, would be responsible for their own products as well as everyone else's. That every time a Tesla car crashes, for example, not only will Tesla have to pay for it, but every other car company in existence will also be charged that same amount just out of spite, I guess? Like if you take my wording 100% literally, an AI or Amelia Bedelia might assume that's what I meant.
The point is, you're not giving an honest argument for why the legal questions are difficult, precisely because you're using hyperbole. So, yes, I was demonstrating absurdity by being absurd.

As to NovaSaber's question, I agree that the manufacturer... or even more likely, the programmer... would be a far more reasonable responsible party.
 

CoffeeHorse

Hanging in there
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
It gets simple when it comes to Robotaxi, since the car and the AI are all part of the same empire. Either way, if it's fully autonomous then there is no legal theory why the rider would be responsible for accidents.
 


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