The Nintendo Thread of Jumping, Slashing, and Home Decorating

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
Google is saying key-card. I mean, Google, so take with a grain of salt. But yeah, I usually assume keycard until proven otherwise.
 

Steamed Hams

Well-known member
Citizen
I was going to get my brother a PS5 Pro for Christmas but learned the thing doesn't come with a disc drive and buying one would up the cost to over £900, Steam Machine costs over a thousand quid, Steam Decks cost £700 plus and suddenly £400 - 450 Switch 2 looks like a bargain.
He caught me playing RE4 on Switch 2 said it looks great (I actually own and play it on Xbox Series X these past few years) and changed my mind, paying for a resolution bump seems pointless, I'm sure he'll be happy with his PS5 for a few more years.

Maybe I'll get him Legend of Zelda Switch 2 40th since he often replays OOT.
 

The Predaking

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
I really hate the keycard games as a concept. It is just a matter of time before it is worthless plastic waste. I am grateful that they at least label them clearly.
 

MEDdMI

Nonstop Baaka
Citizen
Yeah, I've been hunting multiple sites, and they always sell out right as the Preorder button lights up. They'll probably become available after release day for ridiculous markups. I won't feed the scalpers.
 

The Predaking

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
Yeah, I am going to try to get a controller at Best Buy at their launch event, because I too decided not to feed the scalpers.
 

The Predaking

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
Well I suppose a standard Nintendo Switch 2 and copy of the game won't go amiss. Of course, I'll brand his.
That is what I did for my kids. Not the branding, but I got them a Switch 2 and a copy of the game for Christmas as well as a few other games and controllers.
 

The Predaking

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
I picked up one of these at Ross yesterday for $24.99.

1793199924596.png


The glow in the dark feature looks like it will be a hit with the kids. Here is what that looks like:

1793200399828.png


Now I just need to get that Zelda Pro controller and I will have four controllers for the Switch 2 when the girls open them up at Christmas!
 

Steamed Hams

Well-known member
Citizen

Samsung reportedly has a new chip in the works that could help make dreams of a 'Switch 2 Lite' a reality (thanks for the heads up, Notebook Check).

As shared on Bluesky by Nintendo Patents Watch, Samsung has supposedly been working on a new 8LPU+ chip process which might be able to assist with making the Nvidia chip inside Switch 2 more compact and more powerful, while drawing on less power.

While the chip itself hasn't been officially revealed yet (South Korean outlet Electronic Times reports that it could be unveiled in December), the word on the street is that the chip process will boast a 12% performance enhancement, 15% power reduction, and an 8% area shrink, among other features, making it a prime candidate for, we don't know, a smaller console.


With Samsung behind the custom Nvidia chip already in the Switch 2, there's every chance that the new tech could also be used in Nintendo's favour. A smaller Switch 2 — perhaps borrowing the portable-first, non-dock USPs of its predecessor's Lite model — might even pose a cheaper alternative for those wanting to get in on the new hardware's exclusives. With rising costs on just about everything (particularly in the tech space), a less powerful Switch 2 model with cheaper components sure does sound appealing.

We've also got to remember that Nintendo is wrapping up Switch 1 distribution in February 2027. It doesn't necessarily mean that something will be coming in to replace it, we should point out, but if Nintendo and Samsung do have something in the works, it'd be a prime time to introduce it. Heck, the original Switch Lite was released a mere two and a half years after the base model, so who's to say Nintendo doesn't have a Switch 2 equivalent in store for late 2028?

Of course, we've already seen the smallest Switch 2 revision already this year, with the replaceable battery model being introduced in Europe. Rumblings of an 'OLED model' remain under the surface as ever, but what if a 'Lite' option pops up first? Only time will tell, eh!

There's a very valid comment in the comments section: Pokemon Wind and Waves is coming next year so... Lite?
 

The Predaking

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
I can't say that I like the idea of a Switch 2 lite. I mean the whole purpose is to have a cheaper handheld only version. Does it really matter if it is $400 instead of $500 for a full Switch 2? You would have to make it $299.99 for it to even have a chance.
 
Last edited:

ZakuConvoy

Well-known member
Citizen
I feel like even if the new chip was out now, there still wouldn't be enough turn around time to put out a Switch 2 Lite to get a special edition with Winds and Waves.

....MAYBE for Gen XI. Depending on...a host of factors. We'll probably get a special edition Switch 2 for Winds and Waves, but I wouldn't count on it being a "lite" model.

And, I hate to say this, are we sure using a brand new chip would actually make a Switch 2 Lite CHEAPER? Using OLDER-style chips that aren't as in as high of demand might make for a cheaper console rather than a slimmer, brand-new chip that all the big tech companies might want. But, I really don't know what I'm talking about, there.
 

The Predaking

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
I had to google what Winds and Waves was. I didn't know that they had announced a new Pokemon game. Maybe the new processor will be on the Switch 2 Pro, with an OLED screen and a replaceable battery!
 

Steamed Hams

Well-known member
Citizen
I once asked about Lite when Switch 2 launched and people said if Nintendo want to do a Lite and a Pro, then they'd go with a new node, apparently Switch 2 uses a 8nm node and because of this, battery and heat, it's underclocked 'as is'. Some complained it's allocated two of it's eight cores and three GB of RAM to Gamechat and system operations and only has six cores and nine GB of RAM dedicated to games, also that it has lower memory bandwwidth then PS4 meaning foliage, shadows and lighting would suffer in games and after seeing some comparisons of Final Fantasy, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil and so on, that does seem to be the case.
It was suggested then Nintendo and it's partners 'might' be working on a 3, 4 or 5nm node and use 'Samsungs RAM', increase it to 16GB - like Steamdeck and have a Lite that can do Switch 2 docked in portable mode there, and a 'Pro' model offering better resolutions and framerates for more serious gamers there.
However, these past few months, there's been all this talk of a tech crisis, apparently data centres are buying up all the RAM they can and because of this, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft have increased their consoles prices due to rising costs so people scoff at the idea of Nintendo making new games consoles this decade. Theres some who dismiss a Switch 2 Oled because of VRR or something.
Also it's said making any new chip would mean Nintendo would have to sell twenty million consoles to make hundreds of millions they'd spend to make it and last I heard, Nintendo actually cut production.
I got this schoold on this on reddit and various Youtube vids comment sections when I asked about a Lite model.
The superior Sharp made screen was another rumour only a few months ago, now there's this one so maybe we will see a Lite though it seems unlikely.


However, back on planet earth, I want to give Donkey Kong Bananza a go, I wondered where that 3D Mario game was but it seems Donkey Kongs been the 3D platformer for this system!
 
Last edited:

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
Citizen
I really don’t put much stock in many rumors about new models until Nintendo actually announces something. Hell, people were rumor-mongering a “Switch Pro” practically since the console launched in 2017. I view this more in line with NVidia’s “Mariko” refresh of the TegraX1- an improved manufacturing node allowing for better power efficiency and some minor security refinements.

I think any performance improvements will be meager (18% really isn’t much, if it can achieve that), maybe slightly better frame times (akin to the “performance uplift” seen in the refreshed Switch 1 consoles). The big gains will be in efficiency and size, which would allow better battery performance and maybe less thermal pressure on the chips.

I don’t doubt Nintendo is exploring a “Switch 2 Lite”…but it remains to be seen how the market conditions will play out. It will NOT cost $300, not for the next few years due to component shortages. And I’ll always be skeptical of “Pro” talk: The original Switch showed that Nintendo does NOT need to compete directly with the big players in terms of power. For being as “under powered” as it was…it definitely punched above its weight, as seen with the Doom games and Ace Combat. And getting a “Pro” console would push the price point against premium devices like the ROG Ally or Steam Deck or PS5. And going against either of the existing mainstream consoles, the Switch 2 is still going to lag behind in raw power. ”Serious gamers” are already on Xbox Series X or PS5 Pro or gaming computers. The Switch 2, for how capable it is, will still lag behind those devices in raw power.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
At this point, Nintendo has no competition. The entire industry is imploding around them, and they're the only remotely affordable hardware on the market anymore. Nobody cares about what AAA games just came out, or will come out soon, because nobody except Nintendo and indies have released anything worth playing in over a decade, and that was before they replaced all their programmers, artists, and designers with AI. Something that, again, only Nintendo and the indies are committed to not doing. All that extra "raw power" is capable of is letting programmers slack off on optimization at this point, something that will only become more necessary as all the code gets replaced by AI-generated garbage that doesn't even work.

Almost every generation of the console wars has been won by forfeit. And it looks like Nintendo might end up winning so hard by forfeit this time around that they're the only company that even survives.
 

Steamed Hams

Well-known member
Citizen
Speaking of Indies:


Makes me nostalgic for Net Yaroze, in UK we got some of their 'free' games on demo discs with Playstation magazines.
 
Last edited:


Top Bottom