The New TFwiki Discussion Thread (2023)

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
I have a surprise for everyone.

After two long months of long hard work, I have created a new archive on the wiki.

An archive of nearly every single post ever made on ATT by Beast Wars story editors Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio, as well the at-the-time Director of Communications for Mainframe Entertainment, Mairi Welman. And then some!

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Source:Alt.toys.transformers

Throughout the late 1990s and into the 2000s, Beast Wars cartoon story editors Larry DiTillio and Bob Forward, as well as Mainframe Entertainment Director of Communications Mairi Welman, maintained frequent contact with members of the ''Transformers'' online fandom via the Usenet newsgroup alt.toys.transformers, establishing an interactive relationship between themselves and the early online fandom, in which they provided fans with greater insight about the ins and outs of working on the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon and working in the entertainment business in general.

The following is an archive containing copies of nearly every single post ever made on alt.toys.transformers by Mr. DiTillio, Mr. Forward, and Ms. Welman (any missing posts that were non-retrievable have simply been lost to time), grouped by each thread in which they were originally posted, and with links to the original posts archived by Google Groups provided therein. The screennames used at the time by the three were:
  • Larry DiTillio: "DiTillio"
  • Bob Forward: "Bob Forward", "BeastBob1", "[email protected]", and (amusingly) "SpamToIgnore"
  • Mairi Welman: "Mairi Welman", "Mairi", "mairi", and "mairi welman"
Also included are additional posts made by other users who either quoted some of the aforementioned missing posts, or shared e-mailed messages, interviews, and other commentary from DiTillio, Forward, or Welman.

All spelling and grammatical errors are left as they originally were. The formatting, however, has been polished and cleaned up for better readability, as the formatting of the old Usenet system was messy and inconsistent, leaving several posts in a poor (sometimes illegible) state of presentation. Though, line-spacing has been left mostly unaltered.

Text rendered below in Italics represents text shared from other sources, such as text quoted from other users' posts, or messages shared from emails.
 
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CoffeeHorse

Exhausted, but still standing.
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
The recent Wayback Machine outage really puts into perspective how precious it is to have this.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
I have another surprise for everyone

After making the big archive of every ATT post made by Bob Forward, Larry DiTillio, and Mairi Welman, I decided it was only fair to do the same for all the Beast Machines-related content that was originally posted by Bob Skir on, where else, www.BobSkir.com. However, I felt it was especially pertinent to make this archive because BobSkir.com no longer exists anymore, meaning I had to retrieve everything via the WayBack Machine.


This is an archive of information pertaining to the Beast Machines: Transformers (1999) and Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001) cartoons taken from www.BobSkir.com, the official website of Beast Machines story editor Bob Skir, where he engaged with the fandom to answer frequently asked questions about both TV series. Direct links to each original webpage have also been included.

All, spelling, grammar, and formatting errors have been retained from their original presentation.

'Course, I didn't grab everything from every webpage, just the really important stuff.

Also, some of the content looks all wrong on mobile, but everything looks correct on PC/laptop.
 

SHIELD Agent 47

Active member
Citizen
Ah, the wiki edges ever closer to its 20th anniversary!
 

Tuxedo Prime

Well-known member
Citizen
Apropo of nothing related to Transformers, I just want to say thanks to the people who decided to get the hell off of Wikia back in the day and make the TFwiki independant.

A move that proves more and more prescient every day.
For what it's worth, Wookieepedia and Memory Alpha don't seem to be messed around with much by the visual landlords. Not that they are issue-free, but that's either internal politics or (in the case of MemAlpha/MemBeta) the general flux that the fiction is in.

I myself am using Fandom for the Fanon Wiki, but when I link to canon material (as I sometimes do) guess who's getting linked to?

I do wonder how the hosting works, though, as Shoutwiki has frozen new Wiki formation for a long time now, leaving Miraheze as the easiest (for certain values of easy) non-Fandom solution for anyone looking further afield (as I am for fan-made TF material). Hasbro IDW verse and GoBots are Shout-hosted, I know, but discussion of how TFWiki gets to us the readers and occasional contributors is not fully clear to me....
 


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