Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

[Axaday]

So Kirkov seems to be around Eridani B, making it fairly close to Vulcan but still remote enough that nobody bothers going there.

400 AU. A tiny fraction of a light year. It is about 8 times as far as Pluto is from us. If checking out a new anomaly there isn't worth a trip, you don't need a starship at all.

These issues are also where "Her 5 Year Mission" always breaks down under scrutiny. 40 Eridani is really close to Earth. Pike and Kirk's 5-year missions spend an awful lot of time in really, really known space, subtracting greatly from the notion that they are really going very far from home at all. What is "5 Year" about a mission that can run errands around Earth and Vulcan? What happens when the 5 years are up?

 

[Copper Bezel]

400 AU.

jive, it is. That means Uhura's line about the communications was bullshit, her one light year range might as well have been 12 parsecs. I'm back to, never mind, don't use real star systems, guys, never worth it, not even once.

 

[Axaday]

I'm back to, never mind, don't use real star systems, guys, never worth it, not even once.

Enterprise established that Eridani was the Vulcan system.

 

[Copper Bezel]

Of course it would be Enterprise. Of course.

 

[The Predaking]

I saw an article today that said that Season 3 of SNW was ready to shoot prior to the actors going on strike. So apperently they have the scripts, or enough of them to start Season 3, just not the actors.

 

[Cybersnark]

Enterprise established that Eridani was the Vulcan system.

Enterprise canonized it, but it was an established bit of fanon dating back to the 60s.

As far as I can tell it was James Blish's idea, and Roddenberry himself supported it.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

I saw an article today that said that Season 3 of SNW was ready to shoot prior to the actors going on strike. So apperently they have the scripts, or enough of them to start Season 3, just not the actors.

in theory, yes, but isn't it the case that they typically want the writers on-hand during the shoot so that they can write updates as the season goes along, and they keep everything as coherent as possible?

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

I am willing to say what you want, within reason.

Sorry if I sounded like I was being pedantic (certainly I have that tendency). In this instance, I was truly confused what the problem was, since (not remembering specifically what the show asserted) I was imagining someone traveliing from a planet circling one star within the constellation to a planet circling an entirely different star within the constellation. In such an instance, the apparent visible proximity to us on Earth might belie many hundreds, if not thousands, of light years of distance between the actual stars.

Now that I'm clearer on the details, you can safely ignore me on this topic, and carry on.

 

[Copper Bezel]

Yeah, it's just so ubiquitous in Trek to have one exotic sounding word as the name of the system, which sometimes is and sometimes isn't the most important inhabited planet in the system or its (usually single) star. Very much to a fault, since apparently Romulus and Remus are planets orbiting the binary stars Romulus and Romulus B. Even the real Alpha Ceti gets reversed to Ceti Alpha, which sounds way more like a place and less like a catalogue designation (and luckily, unlike Romulus, it comes with enumerated planets.) Either way, we were just falling into that general habit there.

Enterprise canonized it, but it was an established bit of fanon dating back to the 60s.

As far as I can tell it was James Blish's idea, and Roddenberry himself supported it.

It's cute but it's a bad idea, just another piece of lore to contradict. No one in the 23rd century is going to refer to the Vulcan home system by its 20th c. catalogue designation, so if you want to make the connection, you have to force it, and eventually either the scientific understanding of one of these systems is going to expand (say, rule out the possibility of an exoplanet in a system Trek says is inhabited) or the writers are going to simply contradict something we already know (as in this episode.)

 

[The Predaking]

in theory, yes, but isn't it the case that they typically want the writers on-hand during the shoot so that they can write updates as the season goes along, and they keep everything as coherent as possible?

Well, hopefully the guilds can get what they need so everyone can go back to making some great shows and a lot of crappy ones.

 

[Axaday]

Sorry if I sounded like I was being pedantic (certainly I have that tendency). In this instance, I was truly confused what the problem was, since (not remembering specifically what the show asserted) I was imagining someone traveliing from a planet circling one star within the constellation to a planet circling an entirely different star within the constellation. In such an instance, the apparent visible proximity to us on Earth might belie many hundreds, if not thousands, of light years of distance between the actual stars.

Now that I'm clearer on the details, you can safely ignore me on this topic, and carry on.

Kirk took the Enterprise to Orion's Belt once.

 

[Fero McPigletron]

The short animation Very Short Treks used the Strange New Worlds crew. They might not get humor right cuz it's a little bittersweet.

 

[Axaday]

That is official?

 

[MrBlud]

It is! Very Sealab 2021 and not as inane as the first one which I found a bit whiny what with the “wahhh every one is too sensitive” conceit.

 

[Axaday]

The jokes really feel like that go further than they would for official.

 

[Copper Bezel]

Yeah, this one is at least less an "ugh" than the first one, and also still feels really surprisingly like fan humor and unlike something official. Still one very drawn out gag I didn't think was funny, but without the extra stank. And "It's funny, because he usually has legs" was kinda funny, NGL.

I notice the Star Trek identity stinger thing still uses the TAS Connie, but the establishing shot of the ship is a TAS'd SNW Enterprise this time. When "Those Old Scientists" used the SNW Enterprise design in animation, they gave it a white hull, sort of pretending it was the same ship, but here they opted to make the SNW Enterprise silver-grey instead, really hammering in the difference. So that was interesting.

Overall it's giving me vibes of when the Attack on Titan anime did a chibi parody of itself, probably just in the way that it's accepting zero conceits of the source material. It is fun seeing the SNW crew in TAS style and voiced by themselves, though.

 

[The Predaking]

Live blooper! lol!

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

That is official?

Official, yes. Canonical, absolutely not. They're on record saying that Very Short Treks are "anything but canon."

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

The jokes really feel like that go further than they would for official.

I definitely think this one crossed a line for me. It stopped being funny the minute the transporter accident happened the way it did.

 

[The Predaking]

I do like the idea of Spock being dumped by his fiancé multiple times. Like constantly breaking up and then dating over the centuries, including multiple marriages and children.