Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

Dake

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Yeah, that was a truly fun episode that managed what could've been a ridiculous conceit very well.
 
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Fero McPigletron

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Ok, I saw it. Boimler was great. I think Mariner could have had one action bit, since she usually does one.

I don't get the thing about Spock smiling. I thought Boimler brought a sort of Vulcan space disease that caused him to shift emotions and they'd have to stop it. But, nope, it was something I don't know about.

I would have loved more tender moments like in the end with the Orions. Btw, what series did Orions first appear in?

Cute ending with the crew realizing what's up with their perception, hahaha
 

Fero McPigletron

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That's pretty old.

Oh, I didn't get all that 'don't tell Pike something and he should talk to his friends' like Pike is going to die in the immediate future.
 

Copper Bezel

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He has about five years. So it's not immediate immediate.... (Of course, Pike doesn't die, and ultimately ends up in a very good dream for an indeterminate lifespan, but his life as he now knows it ends.)

The gag is mostly that among all of the things that Boimler is terrified of revealing the specifics of, but inevitably reveals way too much of regardless, this could possibly have been the single worst, and even Mariner is basically in the same place now, but thanks to the time crystal and that visit from future Pike at the end of last season, Pike knows all about it, so this is the one thing they didn't actually have to worry over. Boimler's been doing nothing but nervously backing into stepping on more butterflies the whole time, so seeing him nervously alluding to the only bit of future knowledge that won't actually cause a problem is funny.
 

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I've been following Lower Decks but I've only seen two Strange New World eps (the first ep and the Aliens xenomorph ish type ep) soooo will I still enjoy the crossover, even without knowing much about the strange new crew?

You might not get the full gist of everything, but you should be fine. It's mostly focused on the LD characters than the SNW ones. Just know that Captain Pike knows that he is destined to be injured in a training accident in a few years, and the LD crew doesn't know that he knows.
 

The Predaking

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Ok, the Uhura episode was great. I loved that we got some more of Hemmer, even if the Zombie one freaked me out.


The LD episode, I watched last night and loved it! I liked that the Orions really appreciated that they weren't assumed to be pirates, and that they were able to peacefully resolve everything. Also, the guy playing Boimler is really tall, they should make his character a bit taller to match in LD.
 

TheSupernova

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I really hope that the crossover ep gets rebroadcast at some point, because I want it to live on my PVR forever...or until the hard drive dies, at least.
 

Copper Bezel

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The LD episode, I watched last night and loved it! I liked that the Andorians really appreciated that they weren't assumed to be pirates, and that they were able to peacefully resolve everything. Also, the guy playing Boimler is really tall, they should make his character a bit taller to match in LD.
I love that the Orions were written exactly as if they were in a Lower Decks episode. That last little negotiation felt like Pike and La'an were the ones visiting. Oh, and how cool was it that we got to see the old Orion ship again and in pretty CG? God.

Jack Quaid is so tall. It's bizarre. It's frightening. I think I would have preferred going the other way, where they could have used CGI and had him kneel a lot like Elijah Wood.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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I realized while watching this latest ep that I think I like this guy better as Kirk than Shatner (blasphemy I know).

I'll happily join you in that blasphemy. Never liked Shatner, and don't particularly care for Pine, but I actually like this Kirk, which really isn't something I thought I'd ever say.
 

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You know whats great usually after ep of a show drops and you look at reactions of it your slapped in the face with some really bad take of some sad clown that didnt like the ep

I have not seen that take so far with SNW TOS Im sure there someone why has a no fun stick shoved firmly up there ass, but I have personally yet to see that
Genuinely this seems like a well liked ep all around
 

G.B.Blackrock

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You know whats great usually after ep of a show drops and you look at reactions of it your slapped in the face with some really bad take of some sad clown that didnt like the ep

I have not seen that take so far with SNW TOS Im sure there someone why has a no fun stick shoved firmly up there ass, but I have personally yet to see that
Genuinely this seems like a well liked ep all around
That's largely my reaction to the comments I've seen elsewhere vs. here about the upcoming musical episode.

Seriously, people who don't like musicals REALLY seem to hate them, don't they? Glad reactions here haven't been like that.
 

The Predaking

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I don't like his hair color. It's like they are going with the movies hair where Shatner had it more like a dark brown than the Blonde/golden he had in TOS.

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Copper Bezel

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Seriously, people who don't like musicals REALLY seem to hate them, don't they? Glad reactions here haven't been like that.
Those of us who like musicals* can be rather enthusiastic about them, so I think this is a longstanding division. For some people, the musical format just doesn't click or do anything for them, and I think people can fairly or unfairly begin to feel like the target of proselytism and respond defensively. It seems parallel to conflicts I've seen between furries like me and the people who really, really don't get it.

* I've also seen people insist that "musicals" properly refers to musical theater first. I don't follow this usage myself, because I think the film and television genre is just as good and creative, and that live theater in its present form is an inherently classist art form. But in this case it's probably their enthusiasm and my boundary maintenance at work.
 

Axaday

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I can't imagine what it would be like to just "Wanna go to Hamilton on Friday?" "No let's go to Lion King". You have to live in New York City or London. Where I live there is a shot at seeing either of them every few years.

My daughter asked out of the blue the other day if she could see Wicked. My wife was delighted. They'll go in about a year.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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Those of us who like musicals* can be rather enthusiastic about them, so I think this is a longstanding division. For some people, the musical format just doesn't click or do anything for them, and I think people can fairly or unfairly begin to feel like the target of proselytism and respond defensively. It seems parallel to conflicts I've seen between furries like me and the people who really, really don't get it.
I can't speak to your last sentence, so forgive my ignoring the comparison. Perhaps you have something on that "proselytism" thing (although, if true, it strikes me as massively misplaced), but I just can't imagine how having a single episode of an otherwise non-musical show (whether Buffy, Scrubs, Supergirl, Star Trek, or whatever) decide to have some fun with the genre is worth the utter hatred I often see spewed at the concept on other services. It's ONE episode. It won't destroy the franchise (comments made to that effect notwithstanding).
 

Copper Bezel

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Some people hate fun. = P

I can sympathize with someone who thinks that a musical episode is a waste of time and they'll sleep till next week, and is maybe even annoyed about how much gushing they're going to hear about it for the rest of their lives. I could also see someone objecting to the tonal dissonance if it were being inserted into a series like the first season of Discovery or Picard, although of course, that's why those shows didn't have one and SNW does, and I have no doubt that among baseball and love spell and holodeck episodes, even Deep Space Nine at its hardest could have made one work. So I agree with you, reasonable people who won't be having as much fun as we will should distribute their sour grapes and bitters with an attitude that understands that not everything in the universe is made for them. Unfortunately, that is not the fandom we live in, is it.
 


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