Star Trek: Picard

PrimalxConvoy

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And though I know it's not very Trek, a part of me does wish that Beverly had fired one last torpedo at the Borg Queen on their way out. Y'know, just to make sure.
A fine tradition, used by all exemplary female starship officers, otherwise known as the "Ripley Manoeuvre"

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Copper Bezel

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That whole Picard / Jack / Queen scene would have been very different if Crusher had gone instead huh. Wonder where she'd have got the power loader. "Get away from him you
 

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I am a little fuzzy on it now because I never rewatched any so far, but remember when we saw in a trailer that Worf was a pacifist now and we wondered how that could work?

I don't really remember when he delivers that line in the series, but I know we'd already seen him slice up a Vulcan gangster and spend his slack time sparring with his new friend. What sort of pacifist is he?
 

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I am a little fuzzy on it now because I never rewatched any so far, but remember when we saw in a trailer that Worf was a pacifist now and we wondered how that could work?

I don't really remember when he delivers that line in the series, but I know we'd already seen him slice up a Vulcan gangster and spend his slack time sparring with his new friend. What sort of pacifist is he?
IIRC, He says it to Riker as they are going to be transported down to the Section 31 facility where they find Data.
 

Dekafox

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Also remember that he was married to Jadzia for a while, so he would have had the opportunity to learn how to loosen up and do humor better from her, not even including what he picked up from his time on the Enterprise. Picard-era Worf definitely knows how to intentionally rib people(and I don't mean with a batleth).
 

Axaday

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So maybe he was just joking? I don't remember seeing anything at all to substantiate the line.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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I think the term most frequently applied to him in commentary was that he was more "zen," which isn't really the same thing as "pacifist." I don't remember the exact quote, but it might have been intended more to the effect of "seeking more pacifist (that is to say, "peaceful" or at least "non violent") solutions," which would be more consistent with the Worf we saw. Perfectly capable of violence, but seeking other options when available.
 

Axaday

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It had nowhere to go but the cutting room floor when they realized that they never substantiated the idea of Worf being a pacifist and showed plenty to deny it.
 

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So a question highlighted by the first episode of Picard. On a planet that has evolved beyond the need for money, who gets the apartment on the 20th floor in Boston and who gets the Chateau in France?
 

Copper Bezel

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Well, thanks to the rest of the series, we do have more or less the full life history of Chateau Picard. It belonged to the Picard family before WWII. Whatever was happening economically around it, somebody let the Picards keep it up to TNG times. I guess Robert's widow Marie was just hanging out there between Generations and sometime after Nemesis, and then fucked off for Jean-Luc to "inherit" the place when he retired? I mean I guess we're only told that they don't have money, not that they don't have landlords. One thing that can be said though, it seems that it's been an active vineyard in the "present" era and everyone who's lived there has been actively producing wine, and by extremely traditional means at that, until the beginning of S3, where Picard and Laris are leaving and packing up the house but not exactly moving out?

One might suspect that the Federation actually isn't very good at socialism.
 

MrBlud

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Earth might be “old hat” and thus not that popular with the majority of the population?

It operates kinda like a timeshare and you can sign up for areas and slots to live somewhere for a period of time?

People who owned/staked places post WWIII were allowed to keep it so long as they and their descendants continued to occupy it?
 

Ungnome

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That would be my guess. When the New Economy was implemented after the unification of Earth, certain compromises were made to the various powers that allowed for managment of legacy land holdings, especially if it relates to preservation of some sort of cultural traditions(traditional French wine production, in this case)
 

PrimalxConvoy

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That would be my guess. When the New Economy was implemented after the unification of Earth, certain compromises were made to the various powers that allowed for managment of legacy land holdings, especially if it relates to preservation of some sort of cultural traditions(traditional French wine production, in this case)
Also, people still have personal possessions and their own homes. Just how much they "own" anything legally is another matter. Perhaps they could live there as long as the wine, etc is "donated" to the masses?
 

Dekafox

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I think the "cultural heritage" angle feels right here for the chateau - basically like a museum or the equivalent of a national park, traditional vineyards run in the traditional way as a historical artifact. And if the current caretakers are willing to keep running it, as long as they do so properly to maintain its historical status, they get to keep doing so. And once the original owners give it up or no longer want to maintain it themselves, then it'll be run by volunteers who wish to learn about the traditions or keep it going. The Federation values expertise, so if they already have people running it who know how to run it and are doing a good job, no reason to replace them just because they happened to own it when owning it meant something monetarily.
 


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