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Zamuel

Pittied fools.
Citizen

Really fascinating to see what went into Frontiers. I'm wondering how much will be retained for Frontiers' sequel considering the contrast of what they worked out with the engine versus Crossworlds using Unreal instead of the Hedgehog Engine.

Also, I already got the vibe of Sonic's friends sacrifice and felt weird that so many fans were dismissing it even without previously knowing that version of the rabbit in the moon story.
 

Zamuel

Pittied fools.
Citizen
Oh wow, these are really great. A lot of deep cuts but they feel well integrated into the story instead of standing out. Can't wait for more. I'm going to make a wild prediction and say the culprit will be revealed to be:

Sage. She can easily hack the cameras to make it look like it was it was someone else is the robber. She can use badniks for any actual muscle. Ancient artifacts can connect with Gerald's research and help Eggman take over the world.

Also, the show is another thing that showcases that Vector is a crocodile and has the bite strength of one.
 

Zamuel

Pittied fools.
Citizen
Was thinking about how this genre tends to go and something didn't sit right with me on a second listen:

I don't think that was Knuckles that Vector was talking to. Over the past few years, Sega has been acknowledging Knuckles' involvement in the Chaotix. Vector being specific about events would be a tell since he's actually pretty smart and would notice a slip up. Knuckles' language choices about Angel Island seemed wrong, too. He usually talks about it being his duty instead of saying he makes the laws.

I'm hoping this is a mystery with a validly solvable ending once we get all the clues.
 

ZakuConvoy

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Citizen
My suspects so far?

I'm immediately suspicious of Professor Victoria. Never trust a woman asking a detective for help in a detective story, it's almost always a con. (Don't blame me, blame the Maltese Falcon.) But...she's actually kind of a recurring character in these side-story youtube shorts. Would they make her a villain? Part of me doubts it. If it's her, it's more likley to be someone pretending to be her.

Moreso than Knuckles, I feel like Sonic is the one who's acting the most suspicious. He just so happens to have some "free time"? He gets captured by Eggman? Yeah, I smell a setup. Again, if it turns out to be Sonic...it isn't ACTUALLY Sonic. Which, again, seems to hint that there's someone going around in disguise. They DO mention Neo Metal Sonic in the story. And that version of Metal Sonic CAN shapeshift. But...I dunno. They kind of "just" used Neo Metal Sonic in the IDW comics. Would they do that again?

This plot is also pretty similar to the plot of the Chaotix 30th Anniversary Special comic. And in that issue we met a new thief character who uses disguises, Enigma. That'd be kind of a deep cut. But, maybe that was a bit of early cross-promotion while this was in development? Maybe the plan was always to have Enigma be a new Chaotix-focused villain?

Part of me kind of wonders if they'll bring in Mimic from the IDW comics? He's a villainous shapeshifter that would work well in this scenario. I just don't know if they'd use anyone for this audio drama that comes from the comics. Outside of maybe Tango and Whisper. Maybe that's more history than they expect a casual audience to be familiar with. But, a shapeshifter villain would explain any "inconsistencies" in various character's personalities.

Or it could be someone new. Espio did talk about how he felt like his skills were getting rusty. Was that just a character focus moment, or was that foreshadowing him having to face another ninja chameleon later on in the story? Or Charmy's horse...could be a horse of GREAT EVIL! (Say it ain't so, Sir Connery!) Or maybe these "Astroscopic Lenses" are one of those ancient artifacts that are actually ancient tech with a AI inside it, and it "stole" itself? I could see them just making up someone new as a one-off villain. This franchise likes to do that, in it's spin-off media.

So, we'll see how this plays out. I'm not expecting this to have a serious ending, because of the tone. It's probably going to end on a bit of a gag. But, we'll see.
 
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Zamuel

Pittied fools.
Citizen
Saxophones!

Nice to see Espio's got integrity. Pity that it may be overshadowed by certain characters presumably being voiced next episode. Mentioning integrity, it's interesting that this confirms that the Babylon Rogues only (or mostly) steal things that are Babylonian instead of just swiping anything.

Looking at the thumbnail colors, I'm guessing this will have 7 episodes (0-6). Thinking of the genre, if Sage doesn't show up next episode, I'm leaning hard into saying Tori is the culprit. In a story like this, the thief needs to be someone seen or mentioned. Sage has more of the means to steal and impersonate but Tori has fed the Chaotix a clue. Granted, I could also be way off base. The guessing is fun with the weekly format.
 

Zamuel

Pittied fools.
Citizen
Hmm...

Someone pointed out that G.U.N. has shown up at each crime scene even though they weren't called for the second one.

I'm wondering what the percentage split is of people thinking Espio dropped the ball with Rouge vs. the people thinking Espio has integrity for not bailing on his team. Especially since many don't seem to know the genre and that a seduction is sometimes setting up a trap.

With just how good the voice direction for Rouge was I wonder if Cream will show up.
 

Fero McPigletron

Feel the fear!
Citizen
Uh, dumb question but there's no physical copy of the Lost Horizons dl in Sonic Frontiers Switch?
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Edit - it says Lost Horizons is a free dlc. Sooo that's also for the physical copy?
 
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Fero McPigletron

Feel the fear!
Citizen
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Well, I caved and got it. It did a download when I loaded it in! But it does say I can't access Lost Horizons until I finish the game once.

Also, I have to finish Pokémon violet first!
 

Videomaster21XX

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I just played through Sonic Frontiers on my PS5. I can say the Lost Horizons stuff is accessible when you get to the final island/area. The fifth one if I recall correctly. There will be a giant ring portal like how Sonic travels in the movies.

It recommends you beat the game normally first, but you can jump right into it at that time if you want. I beat the game then went for it. It ends up using a new save slot as well, so you can still load up your save for the normal game.

I only dabbled in the DLC, haven't played through it yet. Not sure when I will. Such is life.
 

Fero McPigletron

Feel the fear!
Citizen
After the download, the game was prompting getting an Adventurer's and Explorer's Treasure Box. Info online says there should be a slip of paper with it inside the case but I can't find it. It must have fallen out in the store when we opened it to check the cartridge.

Do I really need it? Info says it just makes the first island easier to complete.
 

ZakuConvoy

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Citizen
You should be fine. It's mostly stuff you just have to grind for, anyway. It's just that if you want any of that stuff, you have to put in the code before you start a game, because it won't work once you start a savefile.

The biggest thing you'd be missing out on is some brown leather gloves and shoes as a costume.
reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/y2h6gl/sonic_frontiers_additional_gloves_shoes_from_the/


What dark secrets lurk within the walls of GUN?

 
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Zamuel

Pittied fools.
Citizen
So far, the Chaos Emerald colors theory with the title cards is holding up.

I've made guesses before but listening to this one and seeing some comments, I'm going to say it's Metal Sonic using a leftover Phantom Ruby fragment. "Red Specter" is a possible alternate name for the Phantom Ruby. While this could be Infinite himself, Metal Sonic has already been mentioned in the story (fitting in with the genre rule). It was also noted that a remix of Metal Sonic Kai's theme played in this episode. The biggest wrinkle is that both Infinite and Metal Sonic seem like they would do more than just punch Tangle. I'm leaning away from Mr. Kitsch being the culprit since it feels too much like a red herring. If so, the Chaotix might actually get paid at the end of this since he did hire them.
 

Fero McPigletron

Feel the fear!
Citizen
You should be fine. It's mostly stuff you just have to grind for, anyway. It's just that if you want any of that stuff, you have to put in the code before you start a game, because it won't work once you start a savefile.

The biggest thing you'd be missing out on is some brown leather gloves and shoes as a costume.
reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/y2h6gl/sonic_frontiers_additional_gloves_shoes_from_the/
Wait, the paper code thing ONLY appears in pre orders of the game?

The copy I bought is just off the shelf. It's not suppose to have that adventurer treasure box paper thing then?
 

ZakuConvoy

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Yeah, that might have been a early-purchase bonus? Later-run copies might not have the code in the box? I'm not 100% sure, but that seems like it could be the case.

reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/zfvj9q/sonic_frontiers_missing_dlc_code/
 
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