When Cybertron got dubbed, the dubbing crew had gotten completely new voice directors than those who had sleepwalked through Armada and Energon, and it shows.
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yeah it went from actual dogshit to moderately competent but fans think it was GOATed entirely on the basis of the theme song
are they wrong tho
Cybertron's theme song is overrated.
It's slow, mellow, and low energy, with the main singer not actually even singing at all. He just speaks every line of the "song".
And because it was played over every single stock footage transformation, it made every one of those feel longer and more drawn out than they originally felt since the original Galaxy Force score had composed numerous orchestral tracks for those transformation sequences that added a greater sense of variety to them and made them all feel much more grand and epic.
It's slow, mellow, and low energy, with the main singer not actually even singing at all. He just speaks every line of the "song".
And because it was played over every single stock footage transformation, it made every one of those feel longer and more drawn out than they originally felt since the original Galaxy Force score had composed numerous orchestral tracks for those transformation sequences that added a greater sense of variety to them and made them all feel much more grand and epic.
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I don't mean to be rude but isn't that telling? I say that because I find Prime to be bland, visually flavourless, and generally not very memorable. I watched the whole series weekly when it was new, and have never felt compelled to revisit it. I've gone over my major issues enough times that I won't revisit them here, but I'll just say it's uninspired blandness aspiring to epicness without actually earning it.
Armada and Cybertron aren't prestige tv by any means. They each have their deep, deep issues. Still, I find both way more fun than Prime. Perhaps the most naval gazey and dull Transformers show put to tv.
To each their own. I was confused by BM when it was new. I revisited it in my early 20s, the perfect time for me to appreciate its pseudo-intellectualism. I've since moved onto "ambitious show with some deep ideas it didn't really realize and maybe weren't right for the audience they wanted to reach... and it's just butt ugly."
The finale is probably one of the best parts but it's also... like... by that point I'm just tired of both of these schmucks and their pontificating.
This is either directly on topic or some sort of election commentary, I honestly can't tell anymore.
Nothing is better than Beast Machines.
it's not really possible to be right or wrong on a matter of taste, but yes
Oh absolutely. I just meant that on a technical level, I found its action scenes impressive. Good animation, good direction and editing, fun to watch. But yeah, shame they were in the service of a show that was so forgettable. Not badly-made, exactly - in fact, after all the jankiness of basically everything that came after BW, the show was a masterpiece of competence. But somehow all the pieces, no matter how well crafted they were in themselves, added up to a little less than the sum of their parts.
To be clear, I don't think the whole show holds up at all. I do genuinely love its weird ambitions and world-building, but I've never been able to rewatch all of it through. It's again mostly on a technical level that I appreciate that fight sequence so much.
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Of these options, Beast Machines was the most ambitious for wanting to tackle conceptual themes. The problem was that this flew in the face of the characters' reality, resulting in protracted debates that ate up time that should've gone to fighting to topple Megatron. Also, the writing wasn't up to that ambition, resulting in these debates being repetitive and hamfisted. Still, I'd argue it's the most, uh, WRITTEN of these.
Prime didn't even have any of THAT. As i've noted elsewhere, it just tried to coast on aura and epicness-as-an-aesthetic.
Armada and Energon have both beat in terms of just stuff HAPPENING and players on the field. However, the first two dubs of the Unicron Trilogy remain hard to actually watch. There's so much more promise there, with the animation formats allowing for a bigger cast and a wider range of locales, but they're basically Dull Surprise: The Series, and even when there's written dialogue it's almost always disposable. I was reminded of all of this with the Nemesis Prime clip, which was arduous to put up with. The MUCH longer show span also is frustrating to consider, as it's that much more episodes that weren't utilized to the full.
Prime didn't even have any of THAT. As i've noted elsewhere, it just tried to coast on aura and epicness-as-an-aesthetic.
Armada and Energon have both beat in terms of just stuff HAPPENING and players on the field. However, the first two dubs of the Unicron Trilogy remain hard to actually watch. There's so much more promise there, with the animation formats allowing for a bigger cast and a wider range of locales, but they're basically Dull Surprise: The Series, and even when there's written dialogue it's almost always disposable. I was reminded of all of this with the Nemesis Prime clip, which was arduous to put up with. The MUCH longer show span also is frustrating to consider, as it's that much more episodes that weren't utilized to the full.