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LordGigaIce

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Thor 3 did very well, and was pretty well received. Thor 4 was the disappointment.
 

Platypus Prime

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So what you're saying is the fourth movie was the Thor Looser?

-I never saw it and till now didn't know there was a fourth Thor movie, so I guess that does actually mean something...
 

Sabrblade

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So, the Thor movies have the opposite pattern of the Star Trek movies. ;)
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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So at its core, Thor 4 was a poor bore at its fore, meaning we may not get more Thor lore anymore?
 

lastmaximal

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Oh, I can confide it survives. In fact it's SO alive we're getting a Thor Five. It remains to be seen if now it'll thrive, because the quality of 4 was that big of a dive.
 

Sabrblade

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... I actually feel Christian Bale gave a really good and compelling performance in Thor 4.

The movie was still bad, yes, but he seemed to still throw everything he had into his role.
 

Anonymous X

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... I actually feel Christian Bale gave a really good and compelling performance in Thor 4.

The movie was still bad, yes, but he seemed to still throw everything he had into his role.
It felt like Christian Bale had escaped from another, much better, film. What a waste of a decent performance. How Taika Waititi still gets film work, I’ll never be able to fathom…
 

Undead Scottsman

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Bale's performance is fine, they just give him hardly anything to do. (The one scene where he goes from a serious, dramatic character to acting like a clownish boogieman in front of some children feels like it's ripped from a completely different script, though)
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
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Depends on how much you like that first one.
I enjoy the first one. The Asgard stuff is very Diet Tolkien but it's a fun super hero/fish out of water story and Thor navigating rural New Mexico will never not be funny for me.

Bale's performance is fine, they just give him hardly anything to do. (The one scene where he goes from a serious, dramatic character to acting like a clownish boogieman in front of some children feels like it's ripped from a completely different script, though)
It's the same issue Christopher Eccleston had with Malekith. He's my favourite Doctor and I was psyched to see him as the villain for Thor 2 but he's such a nothingburger in that movie.

But that's the issue with the MCU- lack of villains with staying power. There's Thanos, Killmonger, I'm gonna count Mandarin 2.0 This Time For Reals... Loki too but he's lopped around to becoming a hero.
For as widespread as the MCU is... it's always struggled to give villains anything meaty. Even if they're played by genuinely talented actors. FFS I bet even Mads Mikkelsen forgets he was in Doctor Strange.

Yes, one bad film and the dude should never work in the business again. Love to see that for everything. One mistake, hug off you're done.
Exactly.
Waititi is one of my favourite filmmakers around today. Thor 4 did suck, and I was disappointed by it, but jfc. One ground out to first and you're out of the rotation? Harsh.
 

Badgertron

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I would argue the MCU (maybe superhero films in general) have a "killing off the villain" problem, where in comics, storylines can continue later and dynamics can build because the villain either gets away or is merely imprisoned.
 

Shadewing

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It's the same issue Christopher Eccleston had with Malekith. He's my favourite Doctor and I was psyched to see him as the villain for Thor 2 but he's such a nothingburger in that movie.

But that's the issue with the MCU- lack of villains with staying power. There's Thanos, Killmonger, I'm gonna count Mandarin 2.0 This Time For Reals... Loki too but he's lopped around to becoming a hero.
For as widespread as the MCU is... it's always struggled to give villains anything meaty. Even if they're played by genuinely talented actors. FFS I bet even Mads Mikkelsen forgets he was in Doctor Strange.

Since Daredevil is now offically part of the MCU, we should count David Tennant as Purple Man from Jessica Jones as at the very least, a well done Villian even as a one off for the series.
 

CoffeeHorse

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Superhero films always had a tendency off their villains in one go, but the villains still used to have much meatier roles.
 


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