Harris-Walz / Dems

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Considering our president is a convicted rapist, I don't think sexual harassment is a career killer anymore, unfortunately.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

Considering our president is a convicted rapist, I don't think sexual harassment is a career killer anymore, unfortunately.

With some voters, it's clearly not, but it really IS with a lot of folks who lean more to the left.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

And I'm not disagreeing. The problem is, now that he's out of the running, he's not news anymore for most people. The left won't bring it up because they don't want that kind of heat, and the right won't bother because they're too busy trying to demonize Mamdani.

 

[Pocket]

I say let the narrative that people genuinely want what Mamdani is selling play out to its logical conclusion. What's the risk, that voters will just suddenly forget why they don't want to vote for Cuomo and do it anyway?

 

[MrBlud]

The thing with politics is there’s never going to be a definitive conclusion.

If Mamdani loses, some people will say he was too progressive while others will say his ethnicity hurt him. Others might say that with two other “nominal” Democrats on the ballot (Adam’s and Cuomo) they bled support from each other and he would’ve won if he were the only Democrat, etc

 

[Pocket]

Wait, there's TWO other liberals that are gonna be on the ballot?

OK at this point I am begging you to tell me that New York City uses a ranked ballot system and I just didn't realize it otherwise this whole situation is so much dumber than I realized.

 

[abates]

Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo are both standing as Independents because of course they are. The election is first past the post.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

I say let the narrative that people genuinely want what Mamdani is selling play out to its logical conclusion. What's the risk, that voters will just suddenly forget why they don't want to vote for Cuomo and do it anyway?

The risk is in thinking that voters want left wing extremism, when they really just want (more moderate?) left wingers who won't abuse people.

I want to make sure we actually win elections, first and foremost. If we push politicians that would do what we want, but they can't get elected, it does us no good.

 

[NovaSaber]

The problem is that those who consider "don't abuse people" to be "extremism" are taken seriously.

Most people who vote Democrat do want things that center-right Democrats have called "extreme".

 

[wonko the sane?]

Creating the conditions for the population of new york city to be able to afford to continue living in new york city... is extreme?

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

In the US? Anything that doesn't involve funneling more money up to the rich is extreme radical leftism.

 

[MrBlud]

The risk is in thinking that voters want left wing extremism, when they really just want (more moderate?) left wingers who won't abuse people.

I want to make sure we actually win elections, first and foremost. If we push politicians that would do what we want, but they can't get elected, it does us no good.

No one running in any serious capacity. Anywhere in the US is even *close* to approaching “left wing extremism”

AOC, Bernie, Mamdani, etc would barely be center left in a civilized Country.

left wing policies of course having majority support among BOTH Democrats and Republicans. So long as you don’t describe them as left wing policies. You ask 10 random people if they think working 40 hours a week should pay you enough to live or if Healthcare or Homes should be affordable and you’re going to get 6-7 people agreeing with you.