Anti-Semitism
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Bro here's my issue with you. Every time anyone even remotely suggests Israel is bad, you go on and on about how they have a right to defend themselves or something like that. Tell me bro, what's the justification for this?
www.bbc.com
Ironbite-go on...defend it.
Lebanese journalist killed in targeted Israeli airstrikes, officials say
Lebanon's prime minister accused Israel of war crimes after IDF attacks on Red Cross vehicles also stopped rescuers from reaching the site.
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Ironbite-go on...defend it.
I believe there needs to be a clear delineation between Israel the state and the Jewish people. The state of Israel, led by criminal Netanyahu, is committing atrocities and war crimes. This doesn't take away from what's been done to the Jewish people, but is a statement of fact that stands on its own. The atrocities and war crimes are being done, at least in part, to keep Netanyahu from the consequences of his criminal behavior. He has pushed this war so he can remain in power despite his criminal actions.
Hamas, has also committed atrocities. It has also been responsible for acts of terrorism. No one is taking anything away from that. But much like how Netanyahu and his allies have pushed that to support the Jewish people you have to support the state of Israel, Hamas has also pushed that in order to support the Palestinians, you have to support Hamas. Neither of these things are true, but leadership on both sides has pushed this to give themselves an air of legitimacy in their attacks on the other.
At this point I believe that both the government of Israel and Hamas are criminal organizations. I believe the best thing for the civilians who are paying the blood toll is the removal of both. Israel needs a fully new government, with Netanyahu and his cronies all removed, stripped of their power, and criminally charged for their war crimes. Additionally, the terrorist leadership of Hamas needs to be removed from all governmental functions and be tried for their own crimes.
Hamas, has also committed atrocities. It has also been responsible for acts of terrorism. No one is taking anything away from that. But much like how Netanyahu and his allies have pushed that to support the Jewish people you have to support the state of Israel, Hamas has also pushed that in order to support the Palestinians, you have to support Hamas. Neither of these things are true, but leadership on both sides has pushed this to give themselves an air of legitimacy in their attacks on the other.
At this point I believe that both the government of Israel and Hamas are criminal organizations. I believe the best thing for the civilians who are paying the blood toll is the removal of both. Israel needs a fully new government, with Netanyahu and his cronies all removed, stripped of their power, and criminally charged for their war crimes. Additionally, the terrorist leadership of Hamas needs to be removed from all governmental functions and be tried for their own crimes.
This is all true. The trillion-dollar question is, how does one simultaneously force regime change in a country that has the world's #1 superpower eating out of the palm of its hand (or is it the other way around?) and wipe out the force that's currently fighting the hardest to make that happen?
So many have rallied around the idea of doing just one or the other of those things, and that's partly because online activists have spent the past decade and change turning "both-sides-ism" into the worst kind of reputational poison. But I think it's also because... the idea of one side managing to eliminate the other at least feels hypothetically achievable? Whether they're in the right or not, it's an easier way to end the conflict than strip the entire power structure of the region down to zero and start over.
It's also not how we've been raised by the media to think about anything. Name a single book or movie where the central conflict is solved by somehow eliminating the leaders of both sides of the conflict, rather than one side triumphing over the other. Hell, name a single conflict in actual human history that ultimately ended that way.
So many have rallied around the idea of doing just one or the other of those things, and that's partly because online activists have spent the past decade and change turning "both-sides-ism" into the worst kind of reputational poison. But I think it's also because... the idea of one side managing to eliminate the other at least feels hypothetically achievable? Whether they're in the right or not, it's an easier way to end the conflict than strip the entire power structure of the region down to zero and start over.
It's also not how we've been raised by the media to think about anything. Name a single book or movie where the central conflict is solved by somehow eliminating the leaders of both sides of the conflict, rather than one side triumphing over the other. Hell, name a single conflict in actual human history that ultimately ended that way.
Mamdani broke his promise to endorse Adrian Espaillat, long-serving chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. He is instead endorsing Darializa Chevalier, a DSA blogger with no political experience and who attended a Hamas victory rally on Oct. 8 2023.
Avila Chevalier attended the Oct. 8 pro-Palestinian rally Lander condemned
While the two congressional candidates are campaigning together, they’ve disagreed on their Israel politics.www.cityandstateny.com
How Mayor Zohran Mamdani could influence NYC's congressional primaries
NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani is not on the ballot in the upcoming primaries, but he could be the deciding factor in whether two sitting congressmen are defeated.www.cbsnews.com
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A Democratic Socialist backed by Zohran Mamdani, Darializa Avila Chevalier, who is looking to stage an upset primary victory in New York's 13th Congressional District, openly championed a notorious female terrorist convicted of plotting an Israeli supermarket bombing that killed two people, public records show.
"Help Rasmea come home!," Chevalier posted to Facebook in December 2014 during the immigration fraud trial in Detroit of Rasmea Odeh, a violent Palestinian operative who'd been released from her life sentence in an Israeli prison as part of a prisoner swap before slipping illegally into the United States.
I'm starting to think she didn't attend the murder rally as an innocent anti-war protestor.
So this has been bothering me lately. Just under year ago, I converted from Judaism to Christianity (was baptized in church), but my wife and stepkids constantly still say I’m Jewish because it’s my race, not my religion.
I never liked being Jewish, and was hoping that actually converting would put it behind me. Apparently it just makes me a Jew for Jesus…
I never liked being Jewish, and was hoping that actually converting would put it behind me. Apparently it just makes me a Jew for Jesus…
Why did you convert? Was it your idea or was it hers?
Cause if you did it to appease her: she'll never think of you as a christian.
Cause if you did it to appease her: she'll never think of you as a christian.
I would say it's between you and God.
I'm sorry you didn't find what you wanted. It could only work if it was for you, not others.
"Converted Jews are secretly still Jewish" was the point of the Inquisition. "Converted Jews still have Jewish blood" was covered by the Nuremberg Laws.
The smileyface of hate did it again:
www.nbcnewyork.com
Mamdani named an 18-person legal panel to appoint judges for NYC. In a city where 45% of the lawyers are Jewish, they are 0 of the 18.
More fun from the DSA:
Democrat Josh Gottheimer says too many in the DSA are "bomb throwers." DSA Dem Summer Lee retorted by accusing him of autographing Israeli bombs to drop on Palestine, apparently thinking Josh Gottheimer was Josh Shapiro. Confronted with this, Ilhan Omar said she too criticizes Shapiro for autographing Israeli bombs. Then Gottheimer pointed out that this had never happened, but rather that Shapiro had autographed Ukrainian bombs to drop on Russia, those Ukarainian bombs having been supported by Lee and Omar among many others.
Gang, I know Trump sucks. I know it can drive people crazy that he keeps getting away with everything. But it really looks like he is ACTUALLY DRIVING PEOPLE CRAZY, like they no longer have any standards whatsoever for their "resistance," like they will drag $100 bills through homeless shelters and psych wards and find whoever hollers the loudest about how evil Trump is and also the Mossad, and figure "yep, this is our new champion, everyone fall in line."
Mamdani failed to name any Jewish members to his judicial advisory committee, law groups say
After Mayor Zohran Mamdani named the members of his Advisory Committee on the Judiciary, a coalition of the city’s Jewish bar associations demanded that he fix what they said is an apparent failure to appoint a single Jewish member.
www.nbcnewyork.com
More fun from the DSA:
Democrat Josh Gottheimer says too many in the DSA are "bomb throwers." DSA Dem Summer Lee retorted by accusing him of autographing Israeli bombs to drop on Palestine, apparently thinking Josh Gottheimer was Josh Shapiro. Confronted with this, Ilhan Omar said she too criticizes Shapiro for autographing Israeli bombs. Then Gottheimer pointed out that this had never happened, but rather that Shapiro had autographed Ukrainian bombs to drop on Russia, those Ukarainian bombs having been supported by Lee and Omar among many others.
Gang, I know Trump sucks. I know it can drive people crazy that he keeps getting away with everything. But it really looks like he is ACTUALLY DRIVING PEOPLE CRAZY, like they no longer have any standards whatsoever for their "resistance," like they will drag $100 bills through homeless shelters and psych wards and find whoever hollers the loudest about how evil Trump is and also the Mossad, and figure "yep, this is our new champion, everyone fall in line."
Ex neo-Nazi Joshua Bonehill-Paine selected as Tory candidate
Joshua Bonehill-Paine was jailed in 2015 after posting antisemitic remarks ahead of a protest.
www.bbc.co.uk
So, the Conservative Party seems intent on taking on the Reform and Restore parties by selecting a ‘reformed’ Neo Nazi who had a criminal record for propagating racist material and harassing a Jewish Labour MP.
Edit: the nazi has since resigned as a Tory candidate, but the Tory leader appointed him as one of her advisers.
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DSA co-chair Megan Romer defends Darializa Chevalier's attending the pro-Hamas victory rally on Oct. 8 2023, says she would have gone herself:
www.jpost.com
She further said that the DSA opposed any aid to Ukraine. In the past, she had said no socialist should ever condemn Hamas.
x.com
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This part is also interesting:
These were very much hand-picked groups that Mamdani was willing to sit with, as some of the more established rabbinic / congregational voices in NYC were pointedly excluded. Even the far lefties he would deign to listen to told him he had been causing harm. Time will tell if he respects their input.
DSA co-chair tells ‘New Yorker’ magazine October 7 Hamas attacks 'inevitable' | The Jerusalem Post
Megan Romer addressed the organization’s geopolitical stance, saying that any US defense or economic support for Israel represents a “solid red line” for the DSA.
www.jpost.com
She further said that the DSA opposed any aid to Ukraine. In the past, she had said no socialist should ever condemn Hamas.
Megan Romer (@meganromer) on X
Read on to learn why we do not, in fact, condemn Hamas and why no socialist should (with a bonus inside: an extremely tidy and easy-to-grasp explanation of dialectical materialism, if you're still struggling with that one)
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This part is also interesting:
These were very much hand-picked groups that Mamdani was willing to sit with, as some of the more established rabbinic / congregational voices in NYC were pointedly excluded. Even the far lefties he would deign to listen to told him he had been causing harm. Time will tell if he respects their input.
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The DSA sound exactly like an American version of Corbynites.
That isn’t a compliment.
That isn’t a compliment.
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Green party votes to adopt policy that equates Zionism with racism
Motion calling for single Palestinian state, which is opposed by most Green MPs, passes by 1,022 votes to 813 at party’s conference
www.theguardian.com
Britain's Green Party votes to class Zionism as a form of racism.
In other news:
In other news:
From the post I learned of the link through:
Man arrested after attacks on three Jewish women including one pushing a pram
A 33-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of racially aggravated common assault
www.independent.co.uk