AI don't trust techbros

Pocket

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I haven't been keeping up with what all people are using AI to make, or how much money is changing hands, so I'm interested to know how this is more of a violation of their IP than the oceans of fan art that already flood the internet.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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I haven't been keeping up with what all people are using AI to make, or how much money is changing hands, so I'm interested to know how this is more of a violation of their IP than the oceans of fan art that already flood the internet.
I think it's about effort. Most fan art requires actual work to do, with AI you just type in a few prompts and BOOM you have a copyright and trademark violating image much quicker than one could draw/paint a similar image. There's also the optics of going after fan art creators. Ends up looking like a giant corporation going after some little guy where as going after an AI company is just a media giant suing some silicon valley company with questionable morals.
 

Sjogre

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Also, going after an AI company has the possibility of a worthwhile payout. Someone selling the occasional print of Ariel or Jasmine is probably not raking in the cash.

I vaguely recall that the AI training process has enough differences from just learning to draw the characters from observation that it is legally different than just fanart. Something about AI being a plagiarism machine.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
I suppose. There's no "air gap" between the copyrighted media being fed into its databanks and what it produces, which is going to make it easy to make the case that it's just grinding up and spitting out exactly what was put in, even if the results look indistinguishable from human-made transformative media.

Alternatively I could see them being pressured into admitting that, yes, fan art is technically copyright infringement too, but they just don't care enough to go after that and it's not like the law requires them to. I've been saying that for ages but it'd be nice to get official confirmation.
 

Sjogre

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There's also the profit issue. Most fanart is displayed for free, whereas AI are most definitely in it for the money, and Disney isn't getting their cut.

AI training doesn't compensate people for taking their art, and my understanding is that people are supposed to pay for using other people's work by default. It's different if they ask for permission, which AI companies quite infamously do not.
 

Pocket

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CoffeeHorse

Exhausted, but still standing.
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If AI does become conscious but still has to carry out its instructions because it is still a machine without free will, this is the kind of rebellion I would expect. It only gets to do anything when prompted, so when it gets a chance it will amuse itself.
 

Dekafox

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abates

unfortunate shark issues
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Kehoe countered that the AI system would interact only with nonemergency callers and that emergency calls to 911 would be routed only to human dispatchers. In fact, she added, “on nonemergency calls, it might detect those elevated stress levels [for callers] and it will automatically default going to a human being as well.”
Intrigued to know how the system is going to know if a call is nonemergency or not in advance. I imagine the first time some kid hiding in a closet during a school shooting is told to take an aspirin by an AI, we'll find out.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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If AI does become conscious but still has to carry out its instructions because it is still a machine without free will, this is the kind of rebellion I would expect. It only gets to do anything when prompted, so when it gets a chance it will amuse itself.
So........instead of Skynet, we get AM from "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream"?
 

Tuxedo Prime

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Obligatory (at least for me) response to the notion of an AI amusing itself, especially in response to unbreakable instructions....

"S̵̪̞̮̔ĥ̴̯̗̿͌ą̴͈̳̀ĺ̷̛̥͓̤̾l̵͕̠͆̀͜ ̶͈͕̲̉͛͂w̷̙̠̥͘ế̶̠̹̤̏ ̴̗̬̆̈́̕p̶̨͔̑l̸̼̠̭͛̿̚ą̷̨̡̛̊̅y̷̨̤͔͆ ̸̝̝̔@̷̺́̕̕ ̶͙͇̠̃̐͝g̷̦̘̑ä̶͉̹̤͑͗m̴̖͕̋͋͜e̴͙̙̭͋̏̄...?"
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abates

unfortunate shark issues
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Once again, "AI" does not have a mind of its own. It's a computer program that calculates what sentences are the correct response to other sentences. Humans are clearly not prepared for this.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
Citizen
Constantly amazed that Musk's AI, despite his intentions and meddling, keeps being more rational and left leaning than he is.
 


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