The DC...Extended Universe or Films or Whatever

Corvus

Well-known member
Citizen
*facepalm*

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MrBlud

Well-known member
Citizen
This has absolutely ZERO percent to do with grosses. Every movie Gunn made could’ve grossed a Billion and they’d still be pushed out for a right-wing Christian producer because the new owners are right-wing Christians.

Above and beyond that, they took away DC’s self-determination because this new guys has to now report to the film division heads.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
This has absolutely ZERO percent to do with grosses. Every movie Gunn made could’ve grossed a Billion and they’d still be pushed out for a right-wing Christian producer because the new owners are right-wing Christians.

Above and beyond that, they took away DC’s self-determination because this new guys has to now report to the film division heads.
I'm reminded of WCW's death, which also involved a WB merger...

People say Jamie Kellner killed WCW because he hated wrestling, and it was all over once he was named the new head of tv programming.
And you know what? He probably did hate wrestling... but WCW also lost $62.3 million in the year 2000. If it was still making $30 million a year like it had been in 1998 would Kellner have killed it? I donno. Probably not. But having lost over $62 million just the year before was all the justification needed by the suits.

So while I'm sure there are reasons for Gunn's departure related to Paramount's ideological preferences, I don't buy that they'd have done this if Supergirl and Clayface were raking in billions. They'd happily keep that money train going if that was the case.

But Supergirl bombed worse than Morbius. A movie that became a meme due to how badly it bombed. You can't put up those numbers and still expect a blank cheque from... well... the guys writing the cheques.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

Broke the Matrix
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
This is the first I've heard about Supergirl bombing worse than Morbius.

Like, I thought people actually went to see Supergirl? Maybe not a lot, but I saw more people talking about it for good or ill than the vampire flick.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
Citizen
This is the first I've heard about Supergirl bombing worse than Morbius.

Like, I thought people actually went to see Supergirl? Maybe not a lot, but I saw more people talking about it for good or ill than the vampire flick.
I think a lot of that is the nature of the discussion around the films- Morbius was written off early as being another Sony attempt at a "Spider-verse" film without doing anything with Spider-Man, and it became notoriously bad enough for memes. Supergirl had a lot more discourse about, y'know, internet troll bullshittery which made resulted in MORE discussion...though I'm not sure how much of it was actually about the film itself. Supergirl also had higher expectations coming off of Superman and being based on a well regarded graphic novel.

Supergirl cost about double Morbius, but grossed about 40 million LESS. It was a bomb, but I think that got glossed over due to the slate and "momentum" of the DC slate as a whole. It didn't matter that Supergirl bombed because the "Franchise" was already moving forward with Man of Tomorrow, Lanterns and a number of other projects. Clayface seems to have done pretty solid business as a higher budget horror film.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
I swear, every time DC starts to get some kind of momentum, they shoot themselves in the foot.

I'm back to zero faith in DC and that's just disappointing after the awesomeness that was Lanterns.
Oh well.
 


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