Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Pale Rider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667940447577145347

 

[Axaday]

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/06/11/jim-jordan-dana-bash-intv-trump-indictment-sotu-vpx.cnn

What in the world, Jim Jordan?

 

[Pale Rider]

What's funny to me is that even if he's right and Trump can legally declassify top secret documents without going through any kind of formal process and then store them in an outhouse, they apparently have no problem with such recklessness. They still think he's just swell and implicitly trust him with our national security.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

The cult believes their orange god can do no wrong. Whether the GOP is part of the cult or just currying their favor for votes is probably down to individuals, but they're all interested in keeping their power, which means keeping the mob pointed at the other guys.

And of course, plenty of them also just want to throw shade at the Biden administration for the next election cycle; Biden may not actually have anything to do with the trials, but facts and logic don't really matter in the face of overwhelming outrage and stupidity.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

If Trump does go to jail before the election, I'll be interested to see if any of the candidates promise to issue a pardon for him when they get elected in an attempt to get Trump's supporters to vote for them.

We'll be lucky if any of the trials conclude before the election, regardless of verdict or sentencing.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/06/11/jim-jordan-dana-bash-intv-trump-indictment-sotu-vpx.cnn

What in the world, Jim Jordan?

Even leaving aside the knee-jerk defense of Trump, if we were to follow Jordan's logic, it would be impossible to accuse any President of wrongdoing. Whatever one thinks of the utility of impeachment, the fact that the process exists demonstrates that the founders considered it possible for a President to go bad.

Remember the founders, GOP? Those folks you supposedly hold in such high esteem?

 

[Axaday]

What's funny to me is that even if he's right and Trump can legally declassify top secret documents without going through any kind of formal process and then store them in an outhouse, they apparently have no problem with such recklessness. They still think he's just swell and implicitly trust him with our national security.

Yeah, he's the freaking President of the United States. He would know if janitors should be reading about France's nuclear arsenal.

 

[Spin-Out]

Cannon's not going to be the final judge assigned to this case. Her history of bias is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to strong.

Ironbite-Federal prosecutors will probably get a new judge.

doj has like a 97% conviction rate. they aren't gonna let this loose cannon screw that up

 

[KidTDragon]

doj has like a 97% conviction rate. they aren't gonna let this loose cannon screw that up

Haaaa! I get it!

 

[wonko the sane?]

Haaaa! I get it!

Probably just the codeine talking: but that genuinely made me laugh.

 

[Pocket]

doj has like a 97% conviction rate. they aren't gonna let this loose cannon screw that up

Yeah, well, XKCD taught me what you can get away with and still maintain a 97% success rate.

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

It's crazy that Trump supporters still think he didn't do anything wrong. If a character in a "Mission Impossible" movie did that, Ethan Hunt would be sent to kill him.

 

[abates]

It's not that crazy when all the media they consume is telling them that Trump did nothing wrong and the DOJ is being weaponized against Biden's enemies. Why would they change what they believe when Fox News and other outlets are reinforcing the right-wing fantasy?

 

[Axaday]

Trump is even saying that pics DOJ got from his employees' phones were planted by the FBI months afterward.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

In case you're wondering how his supporters are holding up:

 

[KidTDragon]

Totally not a cult.

 

[Steevy Maximus]

If you don't want to dig through the indictment yourself, LegalEagle has broken down the case. A textbook case of "Reality is dumber than fiction".

 

[Axaday]

In case you're wondering how his supporters are holding up:

A Christian prays with him and then a Jew prays with him. When the Christian says "In Jesus' Name, Amen" the Jew nods and repeats "Amen"

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

If Donald Trump were written as a fictional character, critics would say that he's a completely one-dimensional cartoonish villain. It's still hard to believe he's a real person. He should have been a miscarriage.

You could try to explain to Trumpers that carelessly handling classified documents but fully co-operating with authorities is not the same thing as deliberately concealing documents from authorities when they come looking for them, but they don't care. That's why it's not worth the bother.

It's like trying to explain to a Nazi that Jews are in fact fully human. What's the point? You know he's not going to listen.

The GOP has always hoped that Trump would destroy himself without any help from them, so that they could inherit his rabid supporters while continuing to encourage and exploit their hatred and misdirected rage.

Sadly, if Trump goes down from this criminal indictment, their strategy will have worked. They will win, having never once done the right thing. They will have his army of drooling orcs and trolls on their side, and they will benefit from his rigging of electoral and legal systems in their favour.

 

[Axaday]

If you don't want to dig through the indictment yourself, LegalEagle has broken down the case. A textbook case of "Reality is dumber than fiction".

I don't like that they had an AI read the transcript in Trump's voice. I just know that in this or some near future case, the defense is going to be that the meeting never happened and the tape is made by AI.