The Midterms

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I mean if we're going to do something as radical as abolish the Electoral College and expand the House to 600-some seats (oof, gonna need to rebuild the whole damn Capitol again, are we?), we might as well start over with the whole damn structure of the thing. Congressional districts are a silly concept to begin with, because even in the best case scenario you're splitting up the country into entirely arbitrary regions that nobody actually identifies with. I have to look up what district I'm even in every single time because it has no bearing on my day-to-day life and of course it changes every few years anyway. Of course everyone is going to try manipulating the boundaries to give themselves an advantage.

As for the Presidential election, I've come to the conclusion that even having a separate election for the singular head of state is to blame for why nobody cares about Congress and treats the President like an elected, limited-term dictator, and also the real reason we've devolved into a two-party system while countries with Parliamentary systems mostly have not. In theory that's what the Framers were trying to avoid when they set up the Electoral College as a body of electors who vote their own conscience, even if that also failed for reasons that are obvious in hindsight. But I also understand that a Parliamentary system would completely violate the separation of powers, and the need to form coalitions to get Prime Ministers and other internal leaders chosen kind of defeats the purpose of having more than two parties.

But this is probably best given its own dedicated thread. Something with a title like "ITT we're the Framers of the Second US Constitution."
 

wonko the sane?

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Do we dare dream that big?
They dared to dream about flipping the house and senate... look at where we are now. Dream big, and put in the work: you might not get exactly what you want, but you'll get SOMETHING, and that's a start.

Start screaming at your new reps about it: it can happen. Realistically, it's not unpopular, it's just never had a chance because of the chuds that knew the outcome would be no more republicans.
 

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I mean if we're going to do something as radical as abolish the Electoral College
Technically the National Popular Vote Compact doesn't abolish the Electoral College or really make any radical change at all; it's an agreement between states to change how their Electoral College votes are distributed from what it currently is to match the nationwide popular vote.
(And not only is there nothing in the constitution telling states how to distribute their electoral votes, the states already don't all do it the same way; 48 do winner-take-all based on the statewide vote, but Maine and Nebraska divide theirs by how each district votes.)
It takes effect after states with 270 or more electoral votes have enacted it, and states with 222 votes have already done so.
If Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Michigan (55 electoral votes total) all pass it, it takes effect. The Electoral College would still exist, but be incapable of contradicting the popular vote.
 

Ironbite4

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So about that Jeffries/Schumer Duo that's supposed to lead Congress......


Ironbite-good rumblings.
 

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So about that Jeffries/Schumer Duo that's supposed to lead Congress......


Ironbite-good rumblings.
Screw rumblings. I wanna see a goddamn earthquake.
 

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So about that Jeffries/Schumer Duo that's supposed to lead Congress......


Ironbite-good rumblings.
hug both of them.
 

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Without a supermajority, it's not like they can accomplish anything for the next two years. Trump will veto whatever they come up with out of both spite and contempt for the entire legislative process, and continue to sign executive orders he insists has the force of law and half the time probably will because the courts are still stacked with his allies. Other than the One Big Beautiful Bill, was there a single thing Trump did in conjunction with Congress this whole term instead of just by executive fiat?

Drafting and passing bills they know will be sent back with a red stamp, just so they can say they tried to a nation that may or may not be listening, sounds like a rotten way to spend the next two years of one's career (which, for the vast majority of those who will be up for reelection in 2028, will be their entire term). But I don't know what else they can do. Anyone banking on things magically getting better in the next year or two, I don't know what to tell you except no it won't. It won't because it can't. Not unless Trump somehow does something so insane that it alienates 15 Republican Senators and [TBA; currently looking like 40-ish] Republican Representatives.
 
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Will he veto everything? I'd love to see what would happen if they went for broke and put Medicare for All on his desk. The Republicans who would complain about it can't do anything for him anymore.
 

wonko the sane?

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Without a supermajority, it's not like they can accomplish anything for the next two years. Trump will veto whatever they come up with out of both spite and contempt for the entire legislative process, and continue to sign executive orders he insists has the force of law and half the time probably will because the courts are still stacked with his allies. Other than the One Big Beautiful Bill, was there a single thing Trump did in conjunction with Congress this whole term instead of just by executive fiat?

Drafting and passing bills they know will be sent back with a red stamp, just so they can say they tried to a nation that may or may not be listening, sounds like a rotten way to spend the next two years of one's career (which, for the vast majority of those who will be up for reelection in 2028, will be their entire term). But I don't know what else they can do. Anyone banking on things magically getting better in the next year or two, I don't know what to tell you except no it won't. It won't because it can't. Not unless Trump somehow does something so insane that it alienates 15 Republican Senators and [TBA; currently looking like 40-ish] Republican Representatives.
That's actually what the analysts are hoping for: two years of bills meant to help the american people hitting trumps desk and trump openly refusing. A continuation of "who made gas expensive" and showing democrats working and the reason why it's not happening.

Besides, the bills will be the sideshow: the main event is going to the reams of investigations into trumps regime. The jan sixth committee on steroids and bred like a rabbit.
 

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So Kansas dumped Roger Marshall and Kris Kobach and it looks like we'll continue to have a Democrat Governor after Ty Masterson jive the bed.
I'm very happy with the results. No it wasn't a total sweep, but it was far more than I think any of us dared to hope.

And now with the calls to remove Shumer and Jefferies and replace them with more driven people, I'm hopeful we won't have a limp wristed approach. The American people indeed want blood. Time to see if he bleeds orange metaphorically.
 

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Oh yeah, I've been watching the map fill in and noticed she was losing. Thanks in no small part to a Libertarian candidate stealing over 3% of the votes. That's how you know people are really dissatisfied with the Republicans; the Libertarians actually start getting enough votes to swing results. The most third-party votes I can find are for an Independent American Party candidate in Nevada who got over 5%. And I've never even heard of them. (EDIT: Wait, no, an independent candidate in Alaska, Bill Hill, got 40%, beating the Democrat so hard he's lumped under "other" on the map I've been using.)

I wish someone had a map of the results for all the state legislatures' districts. It'd be interesting to get a visual representation of how many seats ended up flipping in those.
 
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I'm sure she'll have a great career on Onlyfans.

I don't see Shumer keeping his seat of power, the new class has been very vocal about that. If I were Jefferies, I'd be working hard to show i'm not just the stooge people are making him out to be by promising to actually deal with the problems, not play the 'moving on' card.
 

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For all the vocality about who they don't want: no one is stepping up to replace. I guess we'll see when they vote on it, though.
 


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