Voyage Home is probably my second favorite after Wrath of Kahn. It's a different sort of Star Trek movie, to be sure, but not out of character. TOS wasn't afraid to be lighthearted. Trouble with Tribbles, anything with Harry Mudd in it, etc.
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I doubt this is a particularly hot take, but I've always thought that the II-III-IV trilogy is the peak of Trek on the big screen.
Yeah, that was a great trilogy, but VI was an epic send off for them, and doesn't get enough credit.
Rewatching DS9 Past Tense, I wonder if Sisko impacted his own ancestral history requiring prophet intervention to finetune it and opening the door to him being one.
Also in Star Trek First Contact, I wonder if the Borg plan was to assimilate Earth in the past (as asserted by Picard) or to allow their first invasion to succeed, only because in Voyager they made it clear the Borg don't breed, they only assimilate and ignore selective levels of technology.
Also in Star Trek First Contact, I wonder if the Borg plan was to assimilate Earth in the past (as asserted by Picard) or to allow their first invasion to succeed, only because in Voyager they made it clear the Borg don't breed, they only assimilate and ignore selective levels of technology.
I think that the events of Past Tense always happened like that. They got their message and videos out online and that required Dax out there to convince her benefactor. I think that the Prophets put his mother there because they needed Benjamin Sisko and his mother to save them during those specific times.
I always wondered why the borg didn't just flat out invade the federation. I mean, they had fleets of cubes and spheres, countless worlds across the delta quadrant, and they could get the ships all the way to earth in a matter of minutes. If they really wanted to, they could have steam rolled the Federation, especially early on when the best ship the federation had was the Galaxy class that was easily over powered by a single cube.
Part of me wonders if it was them trying to complete the temporal cycle. Like the borg know they were there in the past, that the sent a message to the collective, and that they would need to be there.
Don't know how well this meshes with the official explanation (Voyager stuff, which I didn't watch 100% of and don't really feel did the Borg any favors anyway, and expanded universe material that I haven't read) but I'd like to think it's because the Borg frankly weren't that interested in the Federation. We were a par-for-the-course technological civilization well outside of the current borders. Basically, the most devastating and frightening enemy that the Federation ever faced was a minor exploratory tendril of an incomprehensibly larger power that was only mildly interested in finding out what was going on over there in the Alpha quadrant.
Saw SNW s4 ep7 Chronitons.
WARNING! Bonus end credit scenes!
Laughed at the start.
Cried a bit near the end.
Not an action ep for Pike but still good for him. Exposure nearly stole his thunder tho, haha
The title is a spoiler on the theme so I didn't put it. But watching the cold opening, once M'Benga said Cosmic Amnesia, I knew what I was in for, hahahaha
Loved the ... mugging? When the faces do the thing? It's so silly!
Not a fan of the sudden daughter drama. Space madness wasn't serious enough. Brains in the closet was whaaaaaat? So the La'an Sybok shipping was the juicy bit, hahaha
I could have done without the open heart surgery. Oh, I knew the heart thing was going to be used as a pun.
Love Rhys Darby (except Flight of the Conchords) so love seeing him as... not Q? What did he say he was? Te- something?
The surprise about Juliet was amazing for me. I didn't expect the continuity. I always liked the fake life still meaningful type of story so Pike missing his fake daughter made me emotional.
Body Cleaning Theater! Haha
Loved the ... mugging? When the faces do the thing? It's so silly!
Not a fan of the sudden daughter drama. Space madness wasn't serious enough. Brains in the closet was whaaaaaat? So the La'an Sybok shipping was the juicy bit, hahaha
I could have done without the open heart surgery. Oh, I knew the heart thing was going to be used as a pun.
Love Rhys Darby (except Flight of the Conchords) so love seeing him as... not Q? What did he say he was? Te- something?
The surprise about Juliet was amazing for me. I didn't expect the continuity. I always liked the fake life still meaningful type of story so Pike missing his fake daughter made me emotional.
Body Cleaning Theater! Haha
The federation was the only civilization that could rival the borg in scope, scale and technology. It was literally something they had never come across before, and would likely never see again.
They kept it around to induce selection pressure on themselves. If there's always a something they cannot beat: they will constantly adapt and not stagnate.
Their original plan was to weaken the Alpha Quadrant: they ripped out outposts along the neutral zone to cause a destructive war between the major powers, weakening them and then invade. It didn't work out as the Romulans didn't buy the Federation would be so ruthless so war was averted.
The time travel thing my have been a last minute thought in First Contact after the cube was destroyed, something that Queen came up with and later ones abandoned.
In Voyager, the Borg planned a new invasion where they'd detonate a bomb in Earths orbit turning the populace intro drones, it never happened.
The pattern is they want to win but at minimal losses.
The time travel thing my have been a last minute thought in First Contact after the cube was destroyed, something that Queen came up with and later ones abandoned.
In Voyager, the Borg planned a new invasion where they'd detonate a bomb in Earths orbit turning the populace intro drones, it never happened.
The pattern is they want to win but at minimal losses.
Trelane is what the character's been referenced as, as he comes from a TOS episode. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Squire_of_Gothos_(episode)
Also little easter egg I learned about after. The counselor was played by someone who'd been a veteran actress in "Days of Our Lives" - as in she's apparently been a part of it for the past 50 years?
Also little easter egg I learned about after. The counselor was played by someone who'd been a veteran actress in "Days of Our Lives" - as in she's apparently been a part of it for the past 50 years?
Oh, I forgot about the Tre- reference when he appeared in SNW. I just forgot again.
I was wondering who she was! I figured there was a reference I was missing.
I was wondering who she was! I figured there was a reference I was missing.
That's the first thing I remember seeing John de Lancie in. My mom would put it on it in the afternoons, so I'd be forced to watch it if I was home sick or something.
He was always Q to me.
Had to pick and choose my showings this week, so I went for Wrath of Khan and Search for Spock. Man it was good to see those on the big screen for the first time, and a blast with the associated episodes too. Chills at the theme music starting, the works. Catching it on even a big TV just doesn't compare.
Woot! I will celebrate by trying to catch up on SNW.
Saw SNW s4 ep8 Orders of Magnitude
I'm still not 100% on what the homage is. I'll put it in the spoiler space.
I don't want a Kirk ep. This could have been a Pike ep but he was surrounded by women and stuff.
I'm annoyed at the administration stuff. Ugh.
Just a few clever bits but not high adventure or even fun.
I'm glad for a bit at the end tho.
Is this Hunt for Red October? What's that Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman movie? I hated that dialogue with the later essential decoder guy talking Kirby Silver Surfer. Ugh, really hated that part.
Bad guys win when good people do nothing. Everyone who served under the dad didn't say anything about the falsification? Even after the whole morale point? That's dumb. M'Benga sucks for that.
Kirk shooting La'an was funny to me. Payback, haha
Pike was surrounded by women. Just making that comment. He could have done cool stuff with the Andorians but Uhura took the win.
I didn't like Asha whatever and I'm glad she's gone.
Sooooo is the invisible ship the Romulans?
Bad guys win when good people do nothing. Everyone who served under the dad didn't say anything about the falsification? Even after the whole morale point? That's dumb. M'Benga sucks for that.
Kirk shooting La'an was funny to me. Payback, haha
Pike was surrounded by women. Just making that comment. He could have done cool stuff with the Andorians but Uhura took the win.
I didn't like Asha whatever and I'm glad she's gone.
Sooooo is the invisible ship the Romulans?
Yeah, I'm 99% sure it was the Romulans. The destroyed colony and placement lines up with what happened later in Balance of Terror, and there's even a cheeky little dialogue easter egg referencing the TOS episode title if you noticed.
Looks like this was a "get the pieces into place" story also, with an explanation of why M'Benga isn't CMO still in "Where No Man has Gone before", gets Uhura her Lieutenant promotion, and continues setting up the relationships with the officers he'll be keeping when he takes command.
Looks like this was a "get the pieces into place" story also, with an explanation of why M'Benga isn't CMO still in "Where No Man has Gone before", gets Uhura her Lieutenant promotion, and continues setting up the relationships with the officers he'll be keeping when he takes command.
That said, this also applies once more:
Oh, I got the title of the possible movie reference wrong. Not Hunt for Red October but Crimson Tide.
Is it my imagination, or is that Enterprise on the cover the movie refit enterprise?