Generations 2027: No More Primes! It is the Age of Evolution!

lastmaximal

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The Nexus situation continues to be so complicated, mostly because of the frame system. It's harder to complete a combiner with its central base relying on a specific format that is harder to slot into a line/waves, even with the current expanded number of Commander class releases. I'm sure they'll eventually get this done, and they might as well take their time.

New versions of previously toy-exclusive characters will likely be put under Generations, not Studio Series.
This was a bit confusing -- they'd still be "toy-exclusive" characters unless used in media, no? -- but the salient point being that they wouldn't go in the media-based line makes sense.

Hoping to do more smaller scale figures like the cereal Jazz, but no current plans. Mentions that this might be a good place to get representations of larger characters (Unicron, Abominus) that would otherwise have to weight for room in the larger size categories.
Abominus? Huh.
Just go and do full micro play, you cowards...

Believe they hit on a good formula for combiners when asked if they could go MTO.
I think this might be a good venue for the G2 combiners, then. And, aside from Defensor (we'll see if that gets shafted out of being made AGAIN), I guess with prices like these I can be fine with the CW ones.
 

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The Nexus situation continues to be so complicated, mostly because of the frame system. It's harder to complete a combiner with its central base relying on a specific format that is harder to slot into a line/waves, even with the current expanded number of Commander class releases. I'm sure they'll eventually get this done, and they might as well take their time.


This was a bit confusing -- they'd still be "toy-exclusive" characters unless used in media, no? -- but the salient point being that they wouldn't go in the media-based line makes sense.


Abominus? Huh.
Just go and do full micro play, you cowards...


I think this might be a good venue for the G2 combiners, then. And, aside from Defensor (we'll see if that gets shafted out of being made AGAIN), I guess with prices like these I can be fine with the CW ones.

Whoops, that should have read more "In response to someone asking if MTO would be a venue for combiners, they said they feel they found a good formula combiners.. (Which implies to me that combiners likely won't be showing up in MTO)
 

lastmaximal

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Ah, that is clearer, thank you! But given there already is precedent for a multipack, it still seems to be a good venue for a combiner giftset (especially since that's a significant production expense up front (and iirc the Legacy Evolution Menasor giftset was a Pulse exclusive as well). Especially after they've seemingly struggled to consistently roll out the G2 Stunticons, which were done one at a time. But it's interesting that they seem to be sticking to the current system, opening this channel up to other possibilities.
 

Sabrblade

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Whoops, that should have read more "In response to someone asking if MTO would be a venue for combiners, they said they feel they found a good formula combiners..
So, we're combining formulas, now? ;)
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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Hm. Combiner formula. Formula like a race car. Mirage is a race car. Optimus Maximus confirmed?

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Arazyr

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I really hope they do a separate frame for Nexus, because I haven't been buying any of the frame-style combiners, but I want Nexus (as one of the Thirteen). So, people like me will be SOL if it's "Silverbolt or nothing"...
 

Andrusi

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Well, speaking of frames, I opened up my first frame system torso bot, Onslaught, a couple of hours ago. And... man. On one hand, it's nice to finally see him presented as the trailer truck he's theoretically been all along, and judging him as a trailer truck bot like Optimus Prime or Scourge with no other considerations, he's pretty good. On the other hand, those other considerations exist, and they accomplished the thing I like as a side effect of making him way bigger in his altmode than I ever would have wanted and also way more expensive, all in the service of making Bruticus a worse combiner on purpose.
 

unluckiness

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I think Bruticus is the worst combiner to apply the frame system to. Besides the fact that his arms are clearly made of the torso bots instead of vehicle parts pasted onto giant robot limbs, the need to mold the frame as parts of Onslaught's vehicle mode means that Bruticus ends up with olive green arms despite all the effort that went to coloring him accurately. There's no simple way to correct this without then compromising truck mode. The chest shield is also not accurate but that one is just a matter of a paintjob.

I look forward to trying to do something on Bruticus though.
 
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Gizmoboy

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The only bot I have ANY issue being a frame bot is Superion. There is NO good way to give Silverbot a trailer.
 

Andrusi

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On the other hand, the frame system gave us base modes, and I thought we'd never see those again.
[no fewer than six distinct Optimodes Prime from the 2020s run away crying]
 

Gizmoboy

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They should've just made it a separate aircraft. Maybe a big cargo jet or something, to pretend the legs are just containers.
They could have done a whole "Loyal Wingman" type thing and made them Silverbolt's drone swarm. Might have made stability a little more of a question though.
 

Andrusi

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Something about Onslaught that's less of a complaint and more of a "that's weird" is that unless I missed something, the Bruticus instructions have instructions for attaching Blast Off and Brawl but not Vortex or Swindle.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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Swindle was out trying to find Brawl's personality component when they were writing it up and couldn't be reached. Vortex's notes were mostly just scribbles of violence and maniacal laughing.
 

lastmaximal

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They should've just made it a separate aircraft. Maybe a big cargo jet or something, to pretend the legs are just containers.
I wonder if some kind of mobile runway/base/airport/refueling station they could each "take off" from might have been better than Yo Why That Jet Got A Big Ass. Do it Metroplex style where the runway track/s are panels atop the proper limbs.
 
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