HasLab 2025: Liokaiser
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Even then, the new photos just raise more questions. For Liokaiser, why is Deathcobra's pelvis on backwards in every shot? For Bruticus, what's going on with the gun color for Swindle's trailer/cannon? And on the subject of costs and changes I'm still confused as to why Onslaught couldn't get his own rifle. I have several options, from the old Red Cog accessory pack, and there's a 5mm port on the top of the big gun by the look of it for carrying one, but why they left out a single piece of plastic is weird to me. Toyhax DOES carry Onslaught rifles, weirdly. I expect they will do brisk business shortly.
First thing that comes to mind for Multiforce is a Dinoking style giftset of Core class dudes (and maybe redecos into Energon characters), but I guess not everyone might be into that. Plus the price point is essentially dead (my initial thought was single releases like the Dinobots).
The box set is why I thought Core Class or the functional equivalent. Put it at a larger price point, by having them all at once, since Core itself isn't an option. And I for one loved Dinoking, its size gave it a lot more play value than a larger bot with the same number of parts. So I could see a size-class-less 'Core Plus' being made for Multiforce members to add the engineering needed for the combinations to work, then sold at an inflated price point.
Core Monstructor was real, right? I need that to be real and not just a rare good dream.
I haven't seen anything about it since the last reveal, and I'm not sure that wasn't an unintentional leak or not. I do hope it comes out, and also there might be some simple, reasonably priced shell set made by another party. Dinoking could get by with a couple of the Safari LTD armored dinos to ride on, but Monstructor needs his weird alien armors.
Quick, someone get Play With This Too on the line.
Last time a 3P company did Pretender shells for their own figures, it destroyed them. PWTT also tried to do something involving Pretender shells and look what happened. The concept is cursed.
With Pretender shells, I rather just have the shell desgin as a robot that transforms, at least on the Decpticon side of things as the inner robots were never very intersting, The Autobots, I think they should be going the route of seperate figures, one for the shell and one for the inner robot that transforms into their respected vehicle, no need for actual shells that are pretty much just paper weights
It's kind of odd, given how Funko Pop ran for a long time basically maing immobile vinyl things known for being large bulbous cavities, that this has never really been attempted. But I guess that's the tricky thing about shells in general, because the sheer size alone is prohibitive for anything above a Core class (and maybe even then). POTP's take might be the main way to get it to work, size included. And y'know, paired with the notion of Transtectors, it kinda does work -- them leading with the Metalhawk shell and then making a Metalhawk was a pretty good turn of events.
In the "this just doesn't play by the rules of general retail" sense, it's perfect for a HasLab. Just don't know if any of the characters really have either the following or the cool factor that the previous HasLabs have done, to garner the kind of buy-in it would need.
In the "this just doesn't play by the rules of general retail" sense, it's perfect for a HasLab. Just don't know if any of the characters really have either the following or the cool factor that the previous HasLabs have done, to garner the kind of buy-in it would need.
They could try having shells be the first Made to Order item for Transformers. I don't think Monstructor or Dinoking are exactly important or popular enough characters or their shells complex enough toys to warrant a Haslab.
I skipped on Unicron because of space and price issues. It's not that I didn't have the money, but I was only employed seasonally at the time and due to my roommate moving I was burning through savings to keep my apartment and spending half a month's rent on Unicron was too irresponsible even for me.
Of course I got a full time job the following year (one of the few good things to come out of COVID) and have been kicking myself for not grabbing Unicron, given how ungodly pricey he's gotten since then. I've grabbed every Haslab since then, if for no other reason than I knew they'd appreciate in value and by ordering one, it just meant there would be one more in the world rather than taking it out of someone else's hands.
Of course I got a full time job the following year (one of the few good things to come out of COVID) and have been kicking myself for not grabbing Unicron, given how ungodly pricey he's gotten since then. I've grabbed every Haslab since then, if for no other reason than I knew they'd appreciate in value and by ordering one, it just meant there would be one more in the world rather than taking it out of someone else's hands.
Unicron is the only one so far that I 1000% don't have any regrets about not getting. It's just not what I want in a Unicron or in any toy whatsoever. I'm not yet at the point in my life where I want to leave these things on display and never transform them. I still want a fun transformation.
Victory Saber hurts because it's still enough of a toy that I can see Generations never offering an alternative. That was it.
Victory Saber hurts because it's still enough of a toy that I can see Generations never offering an alternative. That was it.
Star Saber, Deathsaurus and Liokaiser here for HasLab support. At the time Unicron was out of budget and I just wasn’t interested in Omega Prime, but he looks great.
Grandus could be a fun HasLab figure. I could see Dia Atlas and the other 2 be done as a set together. I don’t think we will get one of the standard combiner teams since we are getting them in mainline. Only one I could potentially see them do is Predaking.
Metroplex, done right, could make for a good HasLab as well, but I feel like he would be better as a mainline titan.
Grandus could be a fun HasLab figure. I could see Dia Atlas and the other 2 be done as a set together. I don’t think we will get one of the standard combiner teams since we are getting them in mainline. Only one I could potentially see them do is Predaking.
Metroplex, done right, could make for a good HasLab as well, but I feel like he would be better as a mainline titan.
The original G1 Multiforce did come out in two-packs. Perhaps they could do something similar in the Deluxe price point?
I mean, I'm already on record saying that I'm not sure an update is the best way to get these guys done, for the challenges posed and the number of sales I imagine they'd make. But I do think there are ways they could happen if Hasbro/Takara only has the will to do so.
I understand your position, but to me, he was totally worth it: an absolute dream and a cornerstone of my collection. He's huge, imposing, not something that I really ever wanted to transform back and forth (even though I can and have!), and has amazing presence.
Again, I get your stance on wanting to have something that you can more readily transform. I love grabbing favorite bots off the shelf and whipping them into their alt modes, and that will never get old. But for me, some figures warrant a little more size, heft, parts count, "general fussing over", etc. - with an understanding that I likely won't be transforming them as much.
Just out of morbid curiosity, then, what is it that you would like to see in a G1-style Unicron toy, besides a smaller scale?
I want a robot mode that's not already fully formed under the planet shell. If there's any bot that's crying out for 2007 Automorphing bits and bobs shifting around, it's Unicron. Bare minimum, just give me the classic head reveal. There's no climax to the HasLab transformation.
To me, it's largely due to the fact that the robot torso just doesn't transform at all. It just rests at the core of the figure in both modes doing absolutely nothing but taking up space and being heavy. Everything else about the figure just wraps around it to hide it beneath all the other robot parts and the planetary shell.
If someone were to do a shot for shot stop motion reenactment of the movie transformation, 100% synchronized to the movie, it would start out okay but after the hands are revealed it would just turn into a slideshow. You'd hear the soundtrack, you'd hear the sounds of things moving around, but you'd see just a series of shots of nothing moving because the rest of the body is fully formed with nothing left to do.
imagine having paid $575 for a ******* shellformer