He-Man, and also the Masters of the Universe

Steevy Maximus

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My suspicion is that Orko might simply be absent due to him being all CGI. Granted, so is Beastman, but he’s WAY more marketable to average audiences. Wouldn’t surprise me if some of those group shots will have Orko in the Final Cut.

We’ll see what they do with Leto’s Skeletor. With enough modulation, it will sound however they want. But here’s all I’m going to say about Leto as Skeletor:
The guy is dull as a “leading man”. But you let him BE A CHARACTER (see Blade Runner 2049, DCEU Joker, Top Hat Ghost from Haunted Mansion)? He can put forth at least interesting, if not strangely compelling, performances.

Also, something else probably riling up the old fans, the casting sheet seems to indicate that Kristin Wiig will be the voice of Roboto.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Right now, I'm sold.

I don't need a movie that redefines the genre. I don't need a carbon copy of Filmation. I just need a damn He-Man movie that looks like a He-Man movie, and this?

This looks like a He-Man movie.

I'm a little unsure of m'boy Roboto's design, but I don't hate it, either, and that he's there at all is a big win for me.

Leto can get bent, but I'm not going to punish the entire production because he's there. Especially when I'd like Hollywood to get the message that maybe making film adaptations of things that looks like the things the film is adapting is desirable. I feel like we're making some headway there at this point.

Now to just hope it's as good as it needs to be. Which isn't Oscar winner, or the new record setting box office take of all time, but enough that I don't regret spending the money to see it in June.
 

Steevy Maximus

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Right now, I'm sold.

I don't need a movie that redefines the genre. I don't need a carbon copy of Filmation. I just need a damn He-Man movie that looks like a He-Man movie, and this?

This looks like a He-Man movie.

I'm a little unsure of m'boy Roboto's design, but I don't hate it, either, and that he's there at all is a big win for me.
You mean “she”? :p

So, some tidbits and observations from the trailer I’ve noticed (just a collection of thoughts, no real order). Not going to touch much on designs, since most are…well…it looks like what they’re supposed to be!
-Adam’s last name on Earth is “Glenn”, which is his mother’s canonical maiden name. His room being filled with astrological stuff also points to that heritage.
-Castle Grayskull now features a crown with a crest styled after the original toy’s design elements. It is also asymmetrical like the toy, rather than being squared off like in most animated portrayals.
-The location of the castle is closer to the palace than portrayed in other media, and is seemingly evocative of the landscape painting done for the 1987 film (per interwebs)
-A number of elements from the Netflix cartoon seem to have made their way in, at least aesthetically. The ethnically and gender diverse core cast, and much of the vehicle elements seemed more in line with that series than the toys or Filmation. Prince Adam’s childhood separation could also be linked to that version as well. This could point to the Netflix series as being a major “starting point” for the film, akin to how the Disney XD Max Steel was the foundation for the ill-fated live action adaption.
-In the collector shop/museum, the toys on display are clearly inspired by Mark Taylor’s original work on what would become Masters of the Universe, including the full size statue of “not-Conan” Vikor.
-Briefly seen in the back of the shop/museum is a display for “Big Jim”. It was a major action brand for Mattel (alongside Major Matt Mason) whose assets would see reuse in the MOTU toy line, famously, the tiger mold became BattleCat. Big Jim and Major Matt Mason are both franchises that Mattel has also been trying to relaunch at varying stages.
-The ship Teela takes Adam to Eternia in is likely a redesigned Talon Fighter, as its design seems to be evoking the Netflix redesign.
-Same goes for the drop ship, which also gives me vibes as the ship used in the Netflix cartoon by the heroes (God, I really wish Painthor would make the cut in this film…)
-The “hoop ships” might be modern reimagining of the old Roton vehicles. One shot shows them chasing what might be new iterations of the Wind Raider or Sky Sleds
-Flying craft with insect wings are also seen, possible reimagining of the Fright Fighter.
-Skeletor makes a grand entrance on what is clearly the classic Filmation “Collector” ship
-Early casting sheets listed an actor for “Goat Man”. In the trailer, a red skinned, horned warrior is seen next to Skeletor. I’m betting this is “Goat Man”.
-Skeletor’s cannon fodder seem heavily inspired by underlings seen in early MOTU artwork.
-In addition to He-Man/Adam, Teela, Man At Arms, and Cringer/BattleCat, the following heroes can be seen or glimpsed: Roboto, Fisto, Sorceress, Mekanek, Ram Man (the later two appearing in group shot towards the end of the trailer with a couple more allies that don’t “pop out” as classic characters)
-Besides Skeletor, the following villains are seen: Evil-Lynn, Beast Man, Trapjaw (fighting He-Man briefly), a creature many are referring to as Spikor (evocative of his sketchbook design), “Goat Man” (the demonic minion seen next to Skeletor).

That’s not EVERYTHING, but those were the things that stood out to me.

This makes me eager to see what Mattel shows at Toy Fair next month. Just from above, the movie is providing a TON of solid fodder for a really solid product line. Arguably, I think Mattel has better options with what I’ve seen from this trailer than Hasbro has gotten with the likes of Bumblebee And Snake Eyes. We’ll see how hard Mattel tries to capitalize here.
 

Steevy Maximus

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Box Office Competition:
MOTU is slated for June 5. That’s two weeks removed from Mandalorian and Grogu, which is facing a big case of “really late after the last season” and generalized “Star Wars malaise”, it seems. A week after, on June 12, the film is facing Steven Spielberg’s Disclosure Day…which I don’t think many know much about besides “new Steven Spielberg film”. I think MOTU would still be fighting the audiences for Mando and Grogu, while Disclosure Day will skew towards older audiences unless new trailers redefine what little is know about the film.
I think MOTU has a good chance to do good business. After two weeks, much of the audience that drove strong opening weekend numbers will be ready for a new thing, and Disclosure Day I think will skew older than the audience for Star Wars and MOTU.

But starting on June 19, it will be back to back heavy hitters and we’ll REALLY see what staying power MOTU and Mando got-
June 19- Toy Story 5
June 26- Supergirl
July 1- Minions 3
July 10- Moana (live action)
And then the back end of July will see Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey and Spider-Man: Brand New Day.
 

ZacWilliam1

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That is definitely Spikor. He's purple.

-ZacWilliam, it looks more like actual Spikor than the Sketchbook version.
 

Steevy Maximus

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if the sequel hook was a hint at She-Ra.
I hope not. I don’t have anything against She-Ra or her integration…but, to me, that feels like the kind of “over escalation” that has seriously hurt long form franchises like Transformers or many superhero franchises. And maybe more importantly, kind of “minimizes” the wonderful scope of the MOTU franchise as a whole.

If I was planning things out, I would point the sequel(s) like this:
Depending on how this film resolves, you potentially have Randor back in charge of a shattered kingdom. That means he’ll need allies, leading to the need to journey to new places in Eternia to find them, letting us see the weird stuff that made MOTU so memorable. The majority of characters we’ve seen are human/ish and cyborg/robots. The world has merpeople, orcs, crab men, bird people, bee people, giants, dragons, all kinds of interesting characters and locations to explore. For Skeletor’s part, his plot may well involve preventing these alliances and making some of his own. Maybe even conjure up some Snakemen to bolster his depleted armies…
Which could then lead to where the two factions have to join to prevent these Snakemen from overrunning everyone. Resolving most lingering plots started with the first film and “cleaning the slate” to justify the escalation the Horde and She-Ra would provide. In addition to giving a meaningful hook to a 3rd or 4th film.
 

PrimalxConvoy

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Briefly seen in the back of the shop/museum is a display for “Big Jim”. It was a major action brand for Mattel (alongside Major Matt Mason) whose assets would see reuse in the MOTU toy line, famously, the tiger mold became BattleCat. Big Jim and Major Matt Mason are both franchises that Mattel has also been trying to relaunch at varying stages.

"The toys of both Zoar and Screeech used the same model, with different color schemes. The same model was also used in 1972 for the bald eagle from the Big Jim toy line; which explains the 1972 date on both Zoar and Screech..."

(Source: - https://he-man.fandom.com/wiki/Zoar)
 

The Predaking

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I am worried that too much of this film will take place on Earth. I am also concerned that Adam being a fish out of water story will dominate screen time once he gets to Eternia.
 

Caldwin

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Some people are saying they'd like a stinger with Adora. Personally, I'd absolutely go nuts if they did a stinger with Despara.
 

Stepwise

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Right now, I'm sold.

I don't need a movie that redefines the genre. I don't need a carbon copy of Filmation. I just need a damn He-Man movie that looks like a He-Man movie, and this?

This looks like a He-Man movie. . .

I'm on the same page. Give me a well-told story with great characters. This looks great - and really, seeing but not hearing Skeletor in that trailer was a cool approach, too.
 

Caldwin

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Wait, they're pulling a Sektor/Cyrax on Roboto? I...you know...honestly... I'm not nearly as surprised as it feels like I should be.
 

MEDdMI

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It's not like I'm a He-Man fan or expecting tacky 80's toy colors, but my main complaint is that the colors of Eternia and the main cast are quite dull/desaturated. It's a fantasy world, it doesn't have to be super realistic/gritty.
 

Platypus Prime

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"-And I became Pee-Man, the Most Incontinent Man in the Universe! And remember as YOUR franchise enters middle age, that help is available, so talk to your doctor about-"
-The merchandising demographics for the new movie are still being worked out.

PeeMan600.jpg
 

Bainreese

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Watching breakdowns of the trailer and seeing all the Easter eggs and love being put into this makes me envious we never got the same level of care for the TF movies(save TfOne).
 

Rhinox

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The sheer amount of talking heads and propaganda bots whining about He-Man having pronouns in the trailer just make me laugh so damn much. It is genuinely funny to me.

Sorry for the political post
 
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