Sonic The Hedgehog

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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See, Mega Man makes sense as a guest. I wonder if he was revealed "last" due to that reason or because of leaks.

It would be funny as hell on the latter, because the leaks came from the physical copies that were coming out today anyway. If they didn't announce it, we'd have known within 24 hours or so anyway.

There is part of me that would love some kinda reference to the crossover comics, but I doubt it

Well, there's this...


I wonder if they'll ever reference contemporary comics on there.
 

Caldwin

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As much as I love Mario Kart and can't imagine any way in which Sonic could do a kart game better...I really want to get this. C'mon payday!
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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As much as I love Mario Kart and can't imagine any way in which Sonic could do a kart game better...I really want to get this. C'mon payday!
I thought Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing and Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed were leagues better than Mario Kart Wii and Mario Kart 7, respectively.

Mario Kart 8 finally brought things up to par, especially with Deluxe, and while I enjoyed it, Team Sonic Racing fumbled the ball.
 

Caldwin

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I got it last night. Hopefully I won't regret getting it before payday, but unfortunately, impulse control isn't always my strong suit.

I don't know. Maybe I just don't have the right familiarity with the genre. I have the Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart World. I've played them, but I in no way consider myself an expert on the genre.

I like them both. Mario has a bunch of characters. Sonic has a bunch of characters. Mario has customization. Sonic has customization. Mario has drifting. Sonic has drifting.

Sooooo, I guess I'm going to have to let you all argue out which is better and why.
 

Pocket

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I played Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed back in the day and that was the first kart racer I ever owned or played more than a few sessions of. I feel like the genre kind of peaked with that game, and not just because you could play as Wreck-It Ralph in it. I know you have water skimming and flying in this game too, but it's not the same without the vehicles also changing into boats and planes. It feels more like an afterthought. And there were tracks that actually changed from one lap to the next, like a boardwalk would get smashed so you'd have to go into boat mode for that section. Plus, featuring characters and tracks from across Sega's lineup made the guest characters not stick out like a sore thumb like they do here.

This game does some neat things, though. I like how you can lose rings by smacking into the guardrails, hiding your place when you get close to the finish line is a smart idea, and the hold-the-needle minigame to get a start boost is my favorite approach to that all the ones I've seen. I also like that the lobby is a physical space where your characters hang out in their cars, instead of just existing as a list of names or whatever.

Speaking of Wreck-It Ralph, though, I always found it interesting how the qualifying race depicted in that movie seems to take the racers on a grand tour of the entire Sugar Rush world, as opposed to being confined to single biome like you'd expect a typical kart racer track to. And it made me think about how a real kart racer might make such a thing possible, and I figured either the tracks would all be part of a single overworld and have special detour routes connecting them that only open up for the mega-race, or there would be portals that appear in place of the finish line. So it's especially interesting to me that Nintendo and Sega have, within months of each other, released actual kart racers that take those two respective design routes. Unfortunately in practice they both kind of feel like silly gimmicks.

Also, there's something fundamentally wrong with the world that Mario got a kart racer with rail grinding before Sonic did.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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I played Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed back in the day and that was the first kart racer I ever owned or played more than a few sessions of. I feel like the genre kind of peaked with that game, and not just because you could play as Wreck-It Ralph in it. I know you have water skimming and flying in this game too, but it's not the same without the vehicles also changing into boats and planes. It feels more like an afterthought. And there were tracks that actually changed from one lap to the next, like a boardwalk would get smashed so you'd have to go into boat mode for that section. Plus, featuring characters and tracks from across Sega's lineup made the guest characters not stick out like a sore thumb like they do here.

I get why they didn't do it, since with the amount of mixing and matching and customization you can do on each vehicle type, and making ALL of that match up in THREE different modes? That seems like a BIG ask.

But in practice, yeah, the transformations may not be as elaborate, but functionally, it felt pretty close to me, minus being able to do tricks in the air as a plane.

This game does some neat things, though. I like how you can lose rings by smacking into the guardrails, hiding your place when you get close to the finish line is a smart idea, and the hold-the-needle minigame to get a start boost is my favorite approach to that all the ones I've seen. I also like that the lobby is a physical space where your characters hang out in their cars, instead of just existing as a list of names or whatever.

I think losing rings on the guard rails is a bit much, but it's fine, given how many you can have and get.
 

Zamuel

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Sonic's been on the rebound the past few years and it's been announced that for next year they're collaborating with the Olympics next year. This is just an announcement so there isn't anything else but most fans have remarked on Amy be used for the Olympic's green leading to "Gramy", "Amy Leaf", and "Vector and Jet were right there".
 

Caldwin

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If Sega did a Smash type game with their characters, do you think Mario would be invited? I only ask because, you know, turnabout is fair play and all that.
 

Sabrblade

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If Sega did a Smash type game with their characters, do you think Mario would be invited? I only ask because, you know, turnabout is fair play and all that.
Would Nintendo be willing to give Sega the license for the character, though?
 

Caldwin

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Fair point. I mean, they ought to. Sega was kind enough to lend them Sonic for Smash. They were even in the Olympics together. It only seems right that Nintendo would be willing to lend Sega Mario for a Smash type game.

But that's not exactly how Nintendo rolls, is it?
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Well, they did for the Olympic Games, at least.

Those were all SEGA.
 

Fero McPigletron

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I'm not up to date on the sonic comics but I saw a video saying the Starline is coming back. Dat true? I'd love it.
 

ZakuConvoy

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Well, there's nothing firm yet saying Starline's coming back. But, this is comics. It's really only a matter of time. His "death" was vague enough that they could bring him back with little problem.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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I thought he was one of Ian's "dead is dead" deals, but then again, he's not the main writer any more, so...

Doctor Starline DLC for Sonic Racing CrossWorlds confirmed?
 

Sjogre

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Fair point. I mean, they ought to. Sega was kind enough to lend them Sonic for Smash. They were even in the Olympics together. It only seems right that Nintendo would be willing to lend Sega Mario for a Smash type game.

But that's not exactly how Nintendo rolls, is it?
I think it comes down to whether or not the game is exclusive to Nintendo systems. If it doesn't have Nintendo exclusivity, then it ain't happening, not even if Mario would only appear in the Nintendo version.

If the game did become an exclusive, then maybe. But not definitely.
 


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