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I finally watched season 4 episode 3 and 4.

3 - didn't like this. If they were going for scary, then make it scary.

For Star Trek's first Zombie episode, I thought it was pretty scary, but then again Zombies are something that naturally spooks me.

So did the Moss kill off or infect all the animals on the planet? MBinga couldn't detect anything inside or out of the station. Also, I totally disagree with Una here, if she had listened to Ortega's plan sooner, then Pike wouldn't have been stabbed and the Klingons could have made it out of there without all dying from the zombies.


4 - I predicted the deaths but not the killer. I want more of this!

The killer was a great touch! I really liked the holodeck test here. It gives a reason for why the holodeck goes wrong, and its neat to see them call for the arch and to see that classic black and yellow lined room.

Also, what is going on between her and Spock! Was that her in the holodeck at the end or did they actually make out after doing the Tango?
 

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Saw SNW 3x8 Four and half Vulcans.

There's an extra scene at the end!!!!

That was hilarious! Ended too quickly. Still absolutely hilarious.

Did folks note how amazing Andon Mount Pike is when he's acting as another character? He was amazing as the weird writer is the fake Trek and he's also amazing here. Funny chameleon, he's.
 

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I"m not enjoying this episode and I'm really starting to wonder if Strange New Worlds is becoming for me kinda dreadful.
 

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Watching this episode and then looking back at the season and considering the apparent upcoming Muppet episode, I get Thor 4 vibes. Yes, you took some risks with Thor 3 and it paid off, but I didn't want THIS.

Una not being able to control herself around Doug is just dumb and not given any explanation. It is just being silly. Granted the after credits scene is really kind of a gag reel, but everything Spock tells him could be looked up. That's the merely silly. Working a ballroom dance into a mind meld, bleh. The constant jokes about Spock being only half Vulcan I actually found funny.

I can JUST stomach the idea of a treatment that turns you genetically into an entirely different species and yet you are still just a version of yourself. Okay. It's science fiction, not science. But you don't act like a Vulcan because your DNA became Vulcan and it doesn't restyle your hair, which isn't genetic. Turning them into untrained Vulcans would be a disaster. The whole episode acts like being logical is genetic to Vulcans, but it isn't. They work hard to learn that and control their emotions. And that just wrecks the entire premise of the episode.

And I am so weirded out by Kirk showing up every day.
 

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I can JUST stomach the idea of a treatment that turns you genetically into an entirely different species and yet you are still just a version of yourself. Okay. It's science fiction, not science. But you don't act like a Vulcan because your DNA became Vulcan and it doesn't restyle your hair, which isn't genetic. Turning them into untrained Vulcans would be a disaster. The whole episode acts like being logical is genetic to Vulcans, but it isn't. They work hard to learn that and control their emotions. And that just wrecks the entire premise of the episode.
I'm not going to get into an argument about how wrong you are to disdain Trek when it goes all out for the silly humor, but it really does need stating that they DID handwave a technobabbly explanation for why they not only looked Vulcan, but started thinking/acting like them too (a specific, but apparently unexpected, side-effect of the method adapted from what they used on Spock when he became fully human).

Does it really make sense? No. But they DID acknowledge it. Precisely because the premise of the episode DID depend on it, no doubt, and the writers were fully aware that "being logical is genetic to Vulcans" had been so thoroughly made impossible by previous canon.
 

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I didn't hear them hang a lantern on it, but I don't care that they did.
It was right at the beginning, basically like they got Spock's level of logic, conditioning, and training.

Personally, I loved how Tlaan became a Romulan and how Scotty and Kirk had to deal with her. Loved Una and Doug's relationship. Loved his conversations with Spock in the post-credits scene.
 

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So at the end of the episode I have some gripes and quizzical thoughts. First, the tail of the episode where we learn and talk about the scavengers being descendants of a human mission: it has a superficial feel of Star Trek dealing with a big idea, but it doesn't have the bones of it. That was unneeded and nonvaluable. It was intriguing several times in the episode and once quite explicitly Pelia identifying herself with humans.

I really liked the plot twist on this. a human band of space pirates, running space around for centuries to loot alien ships. I find it totally believable that they would quickly devolve into that. I also like how they just mixed so much alien technology and were extremey tough for it.


And...I'm just not getting used to Scotty. I forgive this show for a lot because it does some really great things. It also does some dumb things. I don't know how who this man is. Scotty is older than Kirk, taller than Kirk, and speaks with a light (actually fake) Scottish accent. His demeanor is entirely separate from this little, young man who speaks with a genuine and sometimes very difficult to understand accent. This guy is quippy and sarcastic and rolls his eyes at people. It's just not him at all. I forgave them for giving Christine a personality because it is a pretty good one, but that was just putting one into an empty vessel. They've taken Scotty OUT and replaced him.

I am giving them the benefit of this being a young Scotty, a decade before we meet him in TOS. He still has some growing up to do, but he is already a miracle worker.
 

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Saw SNW 3x7 What is Starfleet.

It would be a GREAT episode for folks who haven't seen this type of storytelling, gimmick and plot. For others, probably just good, since old hat ish.

But it would be an optimum ep to show newcomers tho. Showed some good aliens, a story with heart, some ship action, lays out the crew. They missed engineering tho. And lacked humor.

I actually didn't really like this episode and it made me not like the guy, but it still wasn't that bad of an episode.
 


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