Transformers: Age of the Primes toyline discussion || update: stock renders of upcoming Alpha Trion, Micronus, Flatline, Fireflight, Skydive, ++

Exatron

Kaiser Dragon
Citizen
Vortex arrived from Pulse yesterday.

So... did we know that he's completely compatible with Superion? Same keying for connecting to the arms. His front wheels even line up perfectly with the frame indentations for the jets' rear wheels.

Either there is something planned for compatibility specifically between the Aerialbots and Combaticons for the sake of Nexus Prime, or Hastak decided to design in some Scramble City functionality for everyone except Menasor.

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Superomegaprime

Wondering bot
Citizen
If Hasbro were doing scramble city then they would of ensureed that not only can all bots attach to the skeletion but also spilt for the arms as that's where these combiners fall short because I want Airraid to be a arm, not a leg, I might end up having my new Aerial bots be just seperate bots for display rather than combined and keep the CW verison combined for display purposes, besides I'm not a fan of the new Superion head desgin, just looks awakard in my view
 

Exatron

Kaiser Dragon
Citizen
If Hasbro were doing scramble city then they would of ensureed that not only can all bots attach to the skeletion but also spilt for the arms as that's where these combiners fall short because I want Airraid to be a arm, not a leg, I might end up having my new Aerial bots be just seperate bots for display rather than combined and keep the CW verison combined for display purposes, besides I'm not a fan of the new Superion head desgin, just looks awakard in my view
The new combiners definitely aren't full Scramble City combiners, but they do have some of that functionality. Even with Menasor, you can swap his limbs with Superion. You just have to swap the frame sections rather than just the bot itself. Now, it appears they've gone one step further where the arm bots can be swapped between Superion and Bruticus without having to also swap the frames. That would seem to extend only to the arms, since it appears Bruticus will be closer to Devastator and Liokaiser in that the frame appears to only extend to the knee.

I could definitely see a new Alpha Bravo coming based on this implementation. I wouldn't mind getting a new Offroad too.
 

Platypus Prime

Well-known member
Citizen
I was hoping the 'Pulse Combiner' leak listing was Monstructor, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a TFCC homage Nexus Prime homage, like how they did Gift Set Menasor. Was Nexus one of the statues in the pictures? I've totally lost track of who was who in art vs. toy at this point or where we are in it.

It also occurred to me that Onslaught's truck guns are used on his and Bruticus's backs, so maybe the way to get around less combiner frame mass is to not make a base mode at all. Instead, just have the flat back part of the truck detach cleanly and leave it as a helipad/launch platform for the Combaticons flyers, Astrotrain/Galaxy Shuttle style?
 
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Haywire

Collecter of Gobots and Godzilla
Citizen
So... did we know that he's completely compatible with Superion? Same keying for connecting to the arms. His front wheels even line up perfectly with the frame indentations for the jets' rear wheels.

Either there is something planned for compatibility specifically between the Aerialbots and Combaticons for the sake of Nexus Prime, or Hastak decided to design in some Scramble City functionality for everyone except Menasor.

I feel like one of the recent interviews said that it was intended to swap arms with arms and legs with legs, but just not arms with legs due to the frame system. Probably some caveats even then, but I did get the impression that some cross-compatibility was intended.
 

Superomegaprime

Wondering bot
Citizen
It also occurred to me that Onslaught's truck guns are used on his and Bruticus's backs, so maybe the way to get around less combiner frame mass is to not make a base mode at all. Instead, just have the flat back part of the truck detach cleanly and leave it as a helipad/launch platform for the Combaticons flyers, Astrotrain/Galaxy Shuttle style?

What I expect for Onslaught's trailer is for the rear to serve as Runway and helipad, thou its likely they'll just be the transport trailers that are Bruticus's arms and legs, I could see the legs being the part holding the wheels, while the arms when collapsed are the transport pads, differently to Galaxy shuttle/Astrotrain trailer, thou I hope he comes with some big guns because small ones aren't going to cut it!
 

Exatron

Kaiser Dragon
Citizen
I feel like one of the recent interviews said that it was intended to swap arms with arms and legs with legs, but just not arms with legs due to the frame system. Probably some caveats even then, but I did get the impression that some cross-compatibility was intended.

Yeah, there was an interview where that was mentioned.


TFW: Will Bruticus be compatible with the Aerialbots and Stunticons?
Evan: So, he will use the same frame system. So the same way that Menasor is compatible with Superion, Bruticus will be the same. So it will still be able to pop off sort of those frame arms to plop one each other. So yeah, they can sort of swap but it’s not a Scramble City type of swapping if that makes sense.

TFW: What about the legs? Because people have noticed that Brawl might have some tooling that makes part the leg articulation already incorporated.
Evan: True. What Brawl has built in is essentially the shin and the ankle. But the actual thigh parts will still be part of the frame of Onslaught. And that connection is very similar to Superion and Menasor. So you’ll still be able to swap those out.

I don't see anything that would imply you could swap bots between the teams without also swapping the frame pieces, though. That's what surprised me with Vortex.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
I was hoping the 'Pulse Combiner' leak listing was Monstructor, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a TFCC homage Nexus Prime homage, like how they did Gift Set Menasor. Was Nexus one of the statues in the pictures? I've totally lost track of who was who in art vs. toy at this point or where we are in it.
Leaks have revealed Nexus Prime to be a Voyager class figure.

All 13 are in the statue art, in which Nexus looks the most like his Binder/Covenant version:

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Superomegaprime

Wondering bot
Citizen
Don't take the art as gossbal, I mean if you look at Star Convoy, I mean Star Optimus, he looks a lot like PMOP with the chest desgin, so whoever did the art was likely not given complete art or they got it mixed up with PMOP, plus they made him the same size as the Fallen, it makes me wonder if in the future Star Convoy is going to get retooled into PMOP
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
Don't take the art as gossbal, I mean if you look at Star Convoy, I mean Star Optimus, he looks a lot like PMOP with the chest desgin, so whoever did the art was likely not given complete art or they got it mixed up with PMOP, plus they made him the same size as the Fallen, it makes me wonder if in the future Star Convoy is going to get retooled into PMOP
He's the only one in that lineup confirmed to not resemble his toy. The rest all resembled the toys seen thus far.
 

Haywire

Collecter of Gobots and Godzilla
Citizen
I don't see anything that would imply you could swap bots between the teams without also swapping the frame pieces, though. That's what surprised me with Vortex.

Ah, that's a nuance I didn't pick up on; I've largely passed on the new combiners, with the exception of Air Raid, so I'm not overly familiar with the workings of the frame system. That's good to know, and does seem like maybe a bit of planning for some future release (I would buy Alpha Bravo or Offroad as well).
 

Shadewing

Well-known member
Citizen
Leaks have revealed Nexus Prime to be a Voyager class figure.

All 13 are in the statue art, in which Nexus looks the most like his Binder/Covenant version:

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I feel like that would be the biggest mistake they could do. Which is exactly why they will do it. Surely they have to know NO ONE wants that version of Nexus Prime.
 

Exatron

Kaiser Dragon
Citizen
He's the only one in that lineup confirmed to not resemble his toy. The rest all resembled the toys seen thus far.
I would challenge this. Thus far, all of the 13 toys have resembled the AotP statue art in terms of broad strokes. That includes Star Convoy. Certainly, his artwork torso looks a lot more like PMOP than Star Convoy, but otherwise that's straight-up classic Star Convoy. The art is basically the toy we got with a PMOP torso plate tossed on top, presumably just to mess with us.

That level of difference from artwork to toy is not at all unique to Star Convoy. Micronus's toy torso features parts of the Armada Minicon symbol, which resembles his artwork torso only to about the same extent that both PMOP and Star Convoy both have Optimus Prime torsos: they both have slanted lines. They're angled the opposite direction though, and don't make the same sort of design as in the artwork. Alpha Trion's artwork resembles his G1 cartoon appearance, and so does his toy. Aside from that common root, they're clearly two independent designs with none of the details matching up. Likewise, Quintus and Amalgamous clearly used the same Covenant artwork as a starting point, but diverged pretty significantly. I'd argue that Amalgamous especially has much greater deviations between his toy and artwork than Star Convoy.

It seems to me that the line artwork was done at some point where the initial wave of toys was pretty much finalized, the rest of year 1 was pretty far along, and year 2 was all early concept work. There are only three of them left to be revealed. Barring a huge surprise, we already know what Vector will look like via his early release in Legacy. We already know Liege Maximo will be derived from his G2 appearance like the art, but I'd expect the details to vary like the others. That just leaves Nexus as the last real question mark.

Coming at the end of the line, he was probably still very early concept at the time the art was created. That leaves the greatest opportunity for things to have changed between then and the final design. I certainly wouldn't be shocked if he ultimately does resemble the artwork to some degree. However, I wouldn't expect him to be all that close to it either.

If I had to guess, I'd say he'll probably have a similar sort of brutish build, and probably some wings on his back. But even then, I wouldn't be surprised if that leaked combiner listing is what ultimately resembles the art, with the Voyager toy only being a torso component that looks completely different. Aside from Optimus being Leader-sized in the art so as to not tower over everyone else and Micronus being scaled up to the size of his armor, the rest all are scaled pretty similarly to their toys. That makes it pretty striking that a guy getting released as a Voyager is so much bigger than the Leader Onyx right next to him.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
On the other hand, there's already a toy of the other version.
Yeah, but it's one that took me 13 years and $400 to get and I doubt most who don't already own it would be willing to go through that same ordeal.
 

lastmaximal

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
Maybe it'll be like an RID2015 Combiner Force thing. Simple limbs with basic robot modes, small torso with slightly less basic robot mode. This line has had a few that feel like they're clocking in above their price point mass-wise -- Micronus, Onyx, Megatronus -- and this may be similar.
 


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