Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Steevy Maximus]

Also since when does PBS air whole-ass movies that aren't British?

Many stations have "Movie Clubs" where they'll air what are generally deemed to be "classic" or "important" feature films of Americana. Here's the link for the Oklahoma PBS station's Movie Club. I've seen them run Batman 89 before, and apparently they ran Galaxy Quest last February.

The OETA Movie Club

The OETA Movie Club features classic films, celebrity photos submitted by Oklahomans from across the state, and little-known movie trivia.

www.oeta.tv

 

[Dekafox]

If we're lucky, we might get some progress on the China tariff situation this weekend:

US, China to Discuss Tariffs and Trade

US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer will meet with their counterparts from China in Switzerland this weekend in order to discuss tariffs and trade.

“We have shared interests,” Bessent told Fox News. The current tariff situation “isn’t sustainable… especially on the Chinese side,” he added. “145 percent, 125 percent, is the equivalent of an embargo. We don’t want to decouple, what we want is fair trade.”

The meetings will take place Saturday and Sunday.

Knightsbridge Research, Ltd. (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image US, China to Discuss Tariffs and Trade US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer will meet with their counterparts from China in Switzerland this weekend in order to discuss tariffs and trade. “We have shared interests,” Bessent told Fox...

infosec.exchange

 

[Corvus]

There's a reel on Facebook that I can't find now where a reporter tried to get this soundbyte and what they got instead is a little chilling. He says they are reopening it because people insist that everyone needs a trial, but that would be millions of trials, so we're going to do this.

He's already said this much. From last month:

“We cannot give everyone a trial, because to do so would take, without exaggeration, 200 years,”

This is also consistent with things his various mouthpieces have suggested or stated for weeks now. Just this week on X, Stephen Miller (who is in all likelihood operating as what amounts to a shadow president) said:

“The right of ‘due process’ is to protect citizens from their government, not to protect foreign trespassers from removal...due process guarantees the rights of a criminal defendant facing prosecution, not an illegal alien facing deportation.”

And all of this is being said as the administration is in talks with multiple nations in order to expand their range of options for disappearing people they don't like:

"administration is expanding its efforts to negotiate the deportations of US migrants to third-party countries, including Angola, Benin, Eswatini, Moldova and Rwanda. This is alongside the at least 238 Venezuelan immigrants already deported to a prison in El Salvador."

As an aside, I detest the media's continued use of "deported" in these circumstances. These aren't truly deportations, it's the same "extraordinary rendition" that was done in the wake of 9/11, and to continue to call these deportations is a gross understatement of what has actually been done.

If we're lucky, we might get some progress on the China tariff situation this weekend:

If we're lucky, yeah.

We're still going to be dealing with goods shortages in the interim. That might shake a few nuts and bolts loose...you know, if we're lucky.

 

[Axaday]

If we're lucky, we might get some progress on the China tariff situation this weekend:

Ok, are you feeling lucky?

He's already said this much. From last month:
“We cannot give everyone a trial, because to do so would take, without exaggeration, 200 years,”

Well, he's right. No exaggeration there. At 10 1/2 minutes each, 10 million trials would take 200 years.

They COULD try using more than one courtroom.

This is also consistent with things his various mouthpieces have suggested or stated for weeks now. Just this week on X, Stephen Miller (who is in all likelihood operating as what amounts to a shadow president) said:“The right of ‘due process’ is to protect citizens from their government, not to protect foreign trespassers from removal...due process guarantees the rights of a criminal defendant facing prosecution, not an illegal alien facing deportation.”

I feel like there is a scenario where they could have pulled this off and made this sound reasonable to most people. I would just note, though, you need to make absolutely certain that you don't accidentally deport some who wasn't illegal and if you do, you need to make sure it doesn't become national news.

And all of this is being said as the administration is in talks with multiple nations in order to expand their range of options for disappearing people they don't like:"administration is expanding its efforts to negotiate the deportations of US migrants to third-party countries, including Angola, Benin, Eswatini, Moldova and Rwanda. This is alongside the at least 238 Venezuelan immigrants already deported to a prison in El Salvador."

Hmmm...Well, I'm not sure this is true so don't quote me, but I have HEARD that African nations drain their prisons and sneak the inmates into the USA. So this could turn out to be a scam.

 

[KidTDragon]

I would just note, though, you need to make absolutely certain that you don't accidentally deport some who wasn't illegal and if you do, you need to make sure it doesn't become national news.

Don't worry; it won't be accidental.

 

[Pocket]

As an aside, I detest the media's continued use of "deported" in these circumstances. These aren't truly deportations, it's the same "extraordinary rendition" that was done in the wake of 9/11, and to continue to call these deportations is a gross understatement of what has actually been done.

This is the same media engine that willfully parroted foreign regimes' referring to genocide as "ethnic cleansing" back in the '90s, so this is unsurprising.

 

[Corvus]

Make no mistake, I'm not surprised. After all, major media outlets are beholden to their billionaires. I'm simply disgusted.

 

[Paladin]

Trump plans to announce that the US will call the Persian Gulf the Arabian Gulf, officials say

President Donald Trump plans to announce next week that the U.S. will refer to the Persian Gulf as the Arabian Gulf or the Gulf of Arabia.

apnews.com

wonder how much the Saudis paid him for that one.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Bill to be determined. He's sucking up before he goes over there next week.

 

[Axaday]

I wonder who DID coin the term "ethnic cleansing". Who thought there needed to be a nice way to say genocide?

 

[NovaSaber]

Pretty sure the term was coined by someone who was doing it.

 

[Corvus]

The first time I ever heard it used was during the coverage of the Bosnian War. The term as we know it today popped up in 1941:

In its complete form, the term appeared for the first time in the Romanian language (purificare etnică) in an address by Vice Prime Minister Mihai Antonescu to cabinet members in July 1941. After the beginning of the invasion by the Soviet Union,[clarification needed] he concluded: "I do not know when the Romanians will have such chance for ethnic cleansing."[32] In the 1980s, the Soviets used the term "etnicheskoye chishcheniye" which literally translates to "ethnic cleansing" to describe Azerbaijani efforts to drive Armenians away from Nagorno-Karabakh.[33][34][35] It was widely popularized by the Western media during the Bosnian War (1992–1995).

As an aside, I saw someone on reddit refer to Trump as "Donny two-dolls" and I think I'm going to be using that a lot.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

Also since when does PBS air whole-ass movies that aren't British?

Many stations have "Movie Clubs" where they'll air what are generally deemed to be "classic" or "important" feature films of Americana. Here's the link for the Oklahoma PBS station's Movie Club. I've seen them run Batman 89 before, and apparently they ran Galaxy Quest last February.

The OETA Movie Club

The OETA Movie Club features classic films, celebrity photos submitted by Oklahomans from across the state, and little-known movie trivia.

www.oeta.tv

To say nothing of the old "Matinee at the Bijou"

Yes, I'm old.

 

[Corvus]

To say nothing of the old "Matinee at the Bijou"

Yes, I'm old.

Well thanks, because you just dug up the memory of that show, and now the song is stuck in my head.

 

[Dekafox]

Trump’s acting FEMA chief fired day after breaking from the administration | CNN Politics

Cameron Hamilton, who was appointed by President Donald Trump, was escorted out of FEMA’s headquarters on Thursday, according to multiple sources familiar with the situation.

amp.cnn.com

 

[Rhinox]

Dissent is not tolerated in the administration of Dear Leader.

 

[Dekafox]

Trump kills broadband grants, calls digital equity program “racist and illegal”

Trump move also takes grants away from veterans and people with disabilities.

arstechnica.com

 

[Ironbite4]

So Trump fired the Librarian of Congress today. Cause...reasons. Here's the article.

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/09/nx-s1-5393737/carla-hayden-fired-library-of-congress-trump

But what gets most people going is the reason that Trump's press secretary cited for her ousting.

Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social)

Reporter: The president fired the Librarian of Congress. Why? Leavitt: There were quite concerning things she had done at the Library of Congress in the pursuit of DEI and putting inappropriate books in the library for children.

bsky.app

I...I think Trump actually thinks the Library of Congress is an actual public library with all the fixings. Including a children's section.

Ironbite-that he should go sit in and maybe read "How Not To Be a Dictator for Kids".

 

[CoffeeHorse]

Trump kills broadband grants, calls digital equity program “racist and illegal”

Trump move also takes grants away from veterans and people with disabilities.

arstechnica.com

He may be killing this program for the wrong reasons but it is less of a loss than it sounds. See this video for an extended discussion of how that program turned out in practice.

It is informative and infuriating.

 

[Paladin]

can't break the laws for immigrants when there are no laws.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/09/trump-deportation-habeas-corpus-miller.html