Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
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And all it took was a month and a half of him doing exactly what he said he'd do, resulting in exactly what anyone with half a brain said would happen.

I refused to watch. His voice makes me violently angry, and odds are anything worth hearing will be summed up in a single paragraph anyway.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
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I didn't bother watching. But I did see a clip of Rep Greene being ordered to stand down and then removed. Anyone else catch Donald's face while that was happening? The sheer amount of smug satisfaction? hug, he probably had more of an erection than he's had in a goddamn decade.

That kind of protest does nothing but feed him. I think a better tactic in the future would be to simply not show up or turn your back. Deliberately ignore him, dismiss him, act as if he's not even there. And watch him lose his ******* mind.
 

Fullstrength Motleypuss

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Yeah, the Democrats have NO idea how to properly protest. Their half-hearted attempts last night were almost as embarrassing as Trump himself.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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And the one guy that did make a visible show: got ejected. democrats missed a huge opportunity there, and it would have gotten them out of listening to trump.
 

Axaday

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How long has protesting during the State of the Union been a thing? I was alarmed a few years ago when I started hearing about it. Did it always happen or did they just start?

No. Democrats should not skip the event. They should not turn their backs. They should not hold up signs. They should not yell "Liar". They should attend the event somberly and do their response speech after. Then hit the news shows and rebut.

Demostrations are for people without power. For people who have trouble getting the attention they need. When you are a member of the United States Congress, when you can get on the evening national news any day you choose, it makes you look childish.
 

Axaday

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Seems like Trump should be worried less about taking a bullet at this point and more about his own health.
I have never liked wearing a suit or really cared for them, but dad gum. It is true what they say. He looks WAY better in a suit than what he wears when he doesn't have a suit on.
 

KidTDragon

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Seems like Trump should be worried less about taking a bullet at this point and more about his own health.
"President Trump is a man of the people. His commitment is unwavering, and he proves that every single day. President Trump has bruises on his hand because he's constantly working and shaking hands all day, every day," said White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt.

She says that like getting bruised just from shaking hands isn't a sign of a health problem.
 

Fullstrength Motleypuss

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Demostrations are for people without power. For people who have trouble getting the attention they need. When you are a member of the United States Congress, when you can get on the evening national news any day you choose, it makes you look childish.
So, the Democrats? Certain Dems have literally stated they believe they have no power in this situation.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Not even the same ballpark. If they want to talk, they can call a press conference any time. Any of the 24-hour news networks will let them on any night.
The same 24 news networks that have bent the knee, kissed trumps ring, and are owned by the biggest donators to trumps campaign? The same news networks that spent two years convincing the american public that biden had dementia and that trump was perfectly vital and healthy?
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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Trump to issue an EO Thurs directing his newly confirmed education secy to close the dept she now leads, 2 people familiar said.


A draft of the executive order that circulated on Wed recognizes that Trump does not have the power to shutter the Education Dept. It would take an act of Congress & 60 yes votes in the Senate, which is unlikely given Republicans hold only 53 seats.

Rather, the ExecutiveOrder calls on Trump’s Education Secy Linda McMahon [former professional wrestling promoter] to “take all necessary steps” to facilitate the closure of the dept “to the maximum extent appropriate & permitted by law.”


Officials including McMahon have suggested that might include trying to shift some of the agency’s functions to other parts of government, but that also would face legal hurdles, as the agency’s major programs are assigned, by law, to the Education Dept.

More likely is a continuation of what has already begun at the agency: deep cuts to staff, programs & grants. The Education Dept has already warned of a “very significant” reduction in force, or RIF, in the short term.

The draft was labeled “pre-decisional.” One person familiar with the matter confirmed that the draft was legitimate but cautioned that its details could change before it is issued. The Trump White House declined to comment.

The Education Dept administers federal grant programs, including the $18.4B TitleI program that provides supplemental funding to high-poverty K-12 #schools, as well as the $15.5B program that helps cover the cost of education for students with disabilities. The dept also oversees the $1.6T federal StudentLoan program & sets rules for what colleges must do to participate.

The Executive Order is cast as returning power over education to states & local communities, as Trump has repeatedly promised to do. It does not recognize that K12 schools, as well as public universities & colleges, are ALREADY controlled almost entirely by states & local communities. The federal government, by law, may not control school curriculum.

While Trump suggests the federal govt is doing too much on education, he also demands that it do more. The ExecutiveOrder is expected to amplify Trump’s call for schools to excise *illegal discrimination* in the *guise* of diversity, equity & inclusion programs or risk losing federal funding, which accounts for about 10% of K12 public school dollars & a significant share of higher education funding.
The funding thing may not be the leverage he thinks it is if it looks like they're only going to be doing the minimum they can now (per this EO) anyways.
 
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Axaday

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The same 24 news networks that have bent the knee, kissed trumps ring, and are owned by the biggest donators to trumps campaign? The same news networks that spent two years convincing the american public that biden had dementia and that trump was perfectly vital and healthy?
Yes
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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President Donald Trump convened his Cabinet in person on Thursday to deliver a message: You’re in charge of your departments, not Elon Musk.

According to two administration officials, Trump told top members of his administration that Musk was empowered to make recommendations to the departments but not to issue unilateral decisions on staffing and policy. Musk was also in the room.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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FB friend:
Centrists can f**k right off when they try to act surprised that the GOP is treating Russia as a friend and Canada as an enemy. Republicans have laying the groundwork for this for years, and not just Trump: it's been all of them.

Their social-conservative platform is virtually identical to Putin's rhetoric in Russia, while they have been mocking and insulting Canada's relatively liberal policies since the Bush administration. Their constant insulting and belittling of Justin Trudeau has been going on for the entire length of his tenure, while their admiration for Putin has been obvious for at least as long.

Anyone who acts surprised at this "sudden pivot" is either an idiot or a liar.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Your facebook friend hasn't been paying much attention to the republicans, have they? Republicans are both idiots and liars. They are both.
 


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