Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Axaday]

I also felt like Trump looked awfully weak in that he just sat there like a lump until Vance suddenly started "defending" him. I suspect the White House invited him specifically for this planned event.

 

[Rhinox]

This was clearly someone's plan. I doubt Trump was really briefed that much beforehand. Considering someone with his level of dementia wouldn't retain much anyway. Vance, though, appears to have been specifically briefed and coached.

 

[Corvus]

Vance is an obsequious, mealymouthed toady, and Trump is a toddler-brained, knuckle-dragging, narcissistic ignoramus. This showing today may have been the most blatant example of how disastrously unfit both of them are for any political office, much less the POTUS/VPOTUS positions. And yet, I say again, here we are.

Oh, as an addendum to this disgusting and embarrassing display was the capper to an event that essentially began with Brian Glenn, a commentator for the Real America’s Voice, hectoring Zelensky about the fact that he wasn't wearing a suit, while Marco Rubio sat there and looked as if he wished he could just go ahead and shuffle off this mortal coil.

The level of cold disdain I harbor for these soulless ghouls, and the level of shame I feel as an American cannot be overstated. I'll let this photo of Oksana Markarova, Ukraine's Ambassador in the US, reacting to the shameful affair speak for me.

 

[Pale Rider]

I think I'm ready for President Lisa Simpson.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

I'd take President Inanimate Carbon Rod right about now.

 

[KidTDragon]

I think I'm ready for President Lisa Simpson.

I'd take President Inanimate Carbon Rod right about now.

I'd try to keep this going but Mollusk already won it.

 

[Thefakelink]

Aw, they were just about to show some closeups of the rod.

 

[Axaday]

while Marco Rubio sat there and looked as if he wished he could just go ahead and shuffle off this mortal coil.

I haven't followed Marco Rubio. I was disappointed that he took this job, but had already heard him named as a Trump minion in the campaign.

At the start of 2016 I was still registered Republican. I didn't expect to vote for Rubio in the general election, but I voted for him in the primary and then changed my registration to independent the same day. I HOPED that he would be the candidate because he seemed to be the best option. At the time he and Cruz were both staunchly non-Trumpy and I just didn't like Cruz anyway. But sadly Trump just has too much gravity. Everyone who wants a seat at the GOP table has to fall into his orbit.

I don't want Rubio to just shuffle off the mortal coil, but I would be impressed with him if he would resign.

 

[KidTDragon]

At the start of 2016 I was still registered Republican.

We all made silly mistakes when we were younger.

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

All of the Trump-supporter regret posts on social media are like "I voted for Trump and I love the way he's hurting so many people, but I'm a little upset that one of the people he hurt is my son. I hope he can see his way to clear to making an exception for my son while he continues to hurt lots of other people".

Don't kid yourself. These people have learned nothing.

Trump is not a gangster: he's worse than a gangster. At least a gangster will offer you protection in return for giving him your money. Trump wants Ukraine's natural resources while refusing to offer protection in return.

Only Donald Trump would bring a foreign head of state into the Oval Office with the intention of making the guy "kiss the ring" in front of the press so he'll feel like a big man. He really does think he's a king, or an emperor.

So Donald Trump thinks the EU was created just to "screw" the United States of America, which means he recognizes that a trading bloc is a competitive advantage, yet he wants to burn the North American trading bloc to the ground with his trade war against Canada and Mexico?

Oh yeah, I forgot: he has an IQ of 60. He doesn't even realize that he's contradicting himself, because he's too goddamned stupid.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Trump isn't a gangster. He's a bully who thinks he's a gangster pretending to be a businessman.

 

[Dekafox]

Actions have consequences(though I don't know how much this will affect things up there):

Norway fuel giant 'refuses to fill US submarines' after Trump-Zelensky clash | World | News | Express.co.uk

Norwegian petroleum giant Haltbakk Bunkers has declared it will no longer help the US Navy.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Axaday]

Actions have consequences(though I don't know how much this will affect things up there):

Norway fuel giant 'refuses to fill US submarines' after Trump-Zelensky clash | World | News | Express.co.uk

Norwegian petroleum giant Haltbakk Bunkers has declared it will no longer help the US Navy.

www.express.co.uk

That's a deceptive headline. The announcement was no fuel for the US Navy. Someone changed the headline to submarines. If our Navy has been buying fuel in Norway, it wasn't for submarines. None of our submarines use petroleum fuel.

 

[wonko the sane?]

All american submarines, and even the nuclear powered ships use diesel: backup generators use hydrocarbons.

 

[Axaday]

Ah, ok.

 

[Rhinox]

Not sure where to put this, so I'll just park it here.
Apparently Secretary Hesgeth has ordered all cyber operations against Russia to stop. He claims Russia presents no threat and American forces aren't to bother doing anything about Russia online.

MSN

So, yeah.

 

[Ungnome]

What does he know? He's was a talking head on the TV and while he was an officer, he spent most of his career in the reserves. He was never really in the position to make strategic decisions. Trumped picked him because he thinks Hegseth is weak and easy to control.

 

[wonko the sane?]

And he'd be right, the US isn't currently monitoring russia.

Related note: they also fired the guy responsible for election integrity.

 

[Pale Rider]

The US is now a vassal state of the Russian Federation.

 

[Ungnome]

Time to change that.