Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

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I actually don't know anything about Kash Patel and don't mean to go look. Nothing can be a surprise after RFK Jr. I have GENERALLY felt there isn't much point in raising a fuss about cabinet picks. We already elected the President and they're going to do what he wants or get fired. Might as well let it be the person he wants. But RFK was a stunningly bad pick and he got through. So Kash Patel will run the FBI. Is he a convicted felon? His boss is.
 
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Because they're listening to Trump and not you, Mr. Leech. Like, in both cases we have an audience being told "Can you believe how transparently stupid and evil these people are?" and going "Yes actually because we've believed they're that transparently evil for years now," and the only difference is that one of those groups happens to be right.
 

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Weird part is that the straight read of both has Trump closer to the the truth. Elon presents it a payment for social deception. He's too smart to believe that. He's lying. Trump presents it as studying social deception, which is what it is. He seems to be truthful and just irritated because he think it is a waste of money. He probably never even knew about it or it wouldn't have been done.

I think this explains an odd comment that a stranger threw at me today on Facebook. He said I was spouting misinformation and couldn't back it up. I backed it up with a couple of articles and he said the source for one of them was being paid by a party. I figured he just meant USAToday or NBC were liberal biased, but actually one of the articles quotes Reuters.
 
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Rumor is Trump is getting rid of Dejoy so he can fully take over the Post Office with his administration at the head instead of their current administration.
 
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I guess that's the new play. If you can't privatize because of pesky things like Congress or the Constitution, then take it over, cut all services, and run it into the ground.

And, I just saw a news report saying a former intelligence worker is claiming that Trump was recruited as a russian asset and continues to be. Considering his actions, I wouldn't be surprised, but I want to see the evidence of this. If there is, his removal should be the only thing Congress does before anything else.
 
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www.forbes.com

Would You Get A Trump DOGE Dividend Check? You May Be Shocked By Who Doesn’t Qualify

Will you qualify for a Trump DOGE Dividend? The answer may not be as politically advantageous for President Trump as he might hope.
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Yeah yeah, clickbait headline, but I heard this was being talked about yesterday from a coworker. tl;dr:
  • Musk and Trump are talking about giving out checks like the COVID stimulus checks, possibly up to $5000, based off the DOGE cuts.
  • What's been discussed is that it would only go to households that -paid- federal income tax, under the logic this would reduce any inflation from it compared to 2020 because households that pay taxes are more likely to save and pay off debt rather than spend.
  • This would amount to a couple trillion in cost, even though they've come nowhere near to that even in their supposed savings.
  • So far Trump is in favor of it.
The catches(which won't shock you at all):
  • Because it requires paying Federal tax to qualify under the current proposal, any household that was poor enough to not pay tax wouldn't get it e.g. a Household that makes $10k or less annually
  • It probably wouldn't end up at the proposed $5k either
Basically it reads to me they want to give the appearance of "bribing" the masses with a fancy check to get back some of their popularity back, while at the same time funneling that money to the middle class and rich only in actuality, and stick the check on everyone. It also would need to go through Congress, and I could see them trying to force it through with executive order so they can turn around and propogandize the block as "the courts are keeping YOUR money from you" rather than that they didn't have the power to do it in the first place, so they could then turn around and use that for justification for the funding freezes they're trying to pull as in "look, the people say we should have this authority!"
 

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I mean, it makes a sort of sense laid out that way. Why does anyone really care that they are cutting out wasteful spending if that doesn't mean I am going to get the unwasted money back? I think a typical red hat is expecting a rebate and a dramatic shrinking of their tax bill. They're only living paycheck to paycheck because the government has been taking their money and wasting it. I don't think many redhats are going to be satisfied just that the national debt won't go up as fast as it would have.

But haven't they been hammering us with the "fact" that Biden's $1200 stimulus (proposed by Trump who said it should be bigger but followed through by Biden) created the worst inflation in the history of the universe except the Big Bang? A check 4 times that big will be fine?

The biggest barrier is math. To get to $5000 they need to find 100 times what their inflated announcements have found so far. And when I look at their announcements now and then, a lot of it looks like things that happened once a few years ago and while I can see how it makes an interesting story you can't count it is savings. It was spent and was never intended to be spent again. And strangers on Facebook keep saying they are only getting started, but they are only getting started in the places that look most likely. The discovery rate is going to go down, not up. They are going to top out under $100 billion in actual savings and that number is going to amaze red hats, but it isn't going to mean we don't need income tax anymore. It is so little that normal economic fluctuations amount to that much tax revenue any given year. It doesn't even justify changing the rates or brackets.
 
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So what anti-fascist organization are you planning on donating your blood money to?
 
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abcnews.go.com

Trump fires CQ Brown as Joint Chiefs chairman

President Donald Trump announced he had fired Gen. C.Q. Brown, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and planned to replace him with Air Force lieutenant general.
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Firing most of the people responsible for monitoring and punishing war crimes is a pretty big red flag that you're about to do some war crimes.
 

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