Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Teufel

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Fetterman knows very well from running against him that whatever genuinely impressive medical accomplishments Dr. Oz had in the past, he devolved into a kooky snake oil salesman. So "as long as he promises..." is taking the moderate bipartisan shtick a little far.
 

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The convenient thing about making up completely imaginary problems like immigrants eating dogs, Sharia law in Ohio, schools doing gender reassignment surgery without parental permission, or teachers berating kids for being straight is that Republicans can say all these problems disappeared after Trump takes office, and then give credit to Trump.
 

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Yes I believe that was the intention. Well, that and scaring people into voting for him in the first place.
 

Teufel

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Hopefully his exit from Congress is permanent, but that'll probably just turn into a monkey paw's wish thing where he goes onto something bigger.
 

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The last sentence of Trump's statement about it. "Matt has a wonderful future, and I look forward to watching all of the great things he will do!"

Donald, you are a gross old man.
 

Axaday

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Hopefully his exit from Congress is permanent, but that'll probably just turn into a monkey paw's wish thing where he goes onto something bigger.
He may be on his best course though. I think he could still un-resign, but if he does they'll be releasing that report. And coming back right after being roundly rejected is kind of a loser move. Not that he wouldn't do a loser move, but...

Edit - Rubio is going into the Cabinet, right? So DeSantis could make him a Senator.
 
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I wonder if there are any maverick Republicans who were excited at the prospect of making Gaetz the one and only appointment they voted down, to demonstrate to the public that there's one line they wouldn't cross. I wonder what they plan to do now. Actually vote their conscience on all of them?
 

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Asking a Republican to vote on their conscience is like asking me to vote on my gills.
It's actually not THAT uncommon: specifically; those republicans have to be on the way out anyway, so they can flip their party mates the bird on the way out door. Conscience doesn't mean dick to republicans, but ******* over people for spite goes a long way.
 

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I'm just not sure at this point how many of those are even left. I think every single Senator and Representative who voted for Trump's impeachment got primaried or pressured into retiring. But Trump keeps finding new and dumber ways to piss off people who might have been willing to put up with him before.
 

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Truth hurts, don't it...
 

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Teufel

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He may be on his best course though. I think he could still un-resign, but if he does they'll be releasing that report. And coming back right after being roundly rejected is kind of a loser move. Not that he wouldn't do a loser move, but...

Edit - Rubio is going into the Cabinet, right? So DeSantis could make him a Senator.

I dunno, elements of MAGA are pushing Lara Trump so unless Donald personally tells him Gaetz I don't see what would be in it for DeSantis. I don't think DeSantis/Gaetz are tight enough for him to do a big solid like a Senate seat for the guy. DeSantis will be termed out in a couple years, maybe then it'll be time for Governor Gaetz.
 

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I dunno, elements of MAGA are pushing Lara Trump so unless Donald personally tells him Gaetz I don't see what would be in it for DeSantis. I don't think DeSantis/Gaetz are tight enough for him to do a big solid like a Senate seat for the guy. DeSantis will be termed out in a couple years, maybe then it'll be time for Governor Gaetz.
Gaetz would probably invite a Senate Ethics Investigation that way anyway. Maybe he had better become a lobbyist.
 

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I don't really know how dumb Gaetz is. He gives me dumb guy vibes, for sure, but he has a law degree. On one end of the spectrum, the Ethics report was about to be released and he knows what is in it and knows it is true and I guess it might trigger a criminal investigation. Resigning made the report officially irrelevant. If he had resigned ignominiously they might have released it anyway and it would definitely make him look guilty in any case. But since he was up for a Cabinet post, Mike Johnson went to bat for him and kept it sealed. If he is very smart, he maneuvered a way to keep his secrets sort of secret and can tell a lot of Republicans that it was a witch hunt.

But on the low end, given that he reportedly took two prostitutes to see "Pretty Woman the Musical", he may have believed he was getting a recess appointment.
 
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Teufel

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Maybe a gig on Fox News, if all their hosts are staffing the admin they're going to have openings.
 


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