Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Monique]

But how will you know that the billionaires added 65 billion to their fortune last wednesday without us? Fox won't tell you that jive.

I know right?
But like also this isn't a matter of opposing view points. We aren't talking like "Well I don't think I really like president Bush's approach to the enviroment" its "I don't like the fact that people are mad I voted for a guy whos going to gut all our critical governmental departments and is threatening to deport millions even if they are citizens"

 

[NovaSaber]

Respect for people has to come before respect for opinions anyway.

Some people call it the "paradox of tolerance" but I've never seen it as a paradox, because "how someone views and treats other people" never has been and never will be a category that it's wrong to "discriminate" based on.
And (more directly related to the threat title), neither is "whether someone is guilty of serious crimes".

 

[Ultra Magnus13]

Yeah, sorry Deathy G1, but you voted against a middle class tax cut in favor of a top 1% tax cut. You might have meant well, but you are kind of a moron.

I know P&R is bit more wild west than the rest of the board, but this is out of line. Telling a poster they are too dumb to know what there own interests are, and what's best for there family is something that shouldn't be ok for any member to post, let alone an admin.

 

[M. Virion]

Deathy fell for easily disproven lies. Sometimes the truth hurts.

 

[Pocket]

I’m going to bow out of the Politics forum. I probably shouldn’t ever have come in here at all. This really isn’t a place for opposing viewpoints.

This is ridiculous by the way. All the way through the first Trump administration, there were self-identified conservatives regularly posting here. Just not conservatives who supported Trump. It's down to just Teufel these days, although I think the others disappeared when the forum reset (along with a few other posters whose perspectives I miss).

 

[Wheelimus]

I know P&R is bit more wild west than the rest of the board, but this is out of line. Telling a poster they are too dumb to know what there own interests are, and what's best for there family is something that shouldn't be ok for any member to post, let alone an admin.

I stand by my words. Moron is a pretty benign slam in the big picture, and we've all been one at various points in our lives. In 2000 when I was young and dumb I voted for Ralph Nader. I meant well, but I was a moron.

 

[Haze Arquebus]

I know P&R is bit more wild west than the rest of the board, but this is out of line. Telling a poster they are too dumb to know what there own interests are, and what's best for there family is something that shouldn't be ok for any member to post, let alone an admin.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[Pale Rider]

Oh great, another four years of "staaahp calling us stuuupid!!! "

 

[Axaday]

But how will you know that the billionaires added 65 billion to their fortune last wednesday without us? Fox won't tell you that jive.

Is Fox ashamed of that?

 

[Axaday]

I voted based on what was best for my family.

I honestly can't think of what policy proposal of Trump's you could be craving for your family. He campaigned on so little. Deportations and Tariffs.

 

[Pale Rider]

Maybe his family is just really eager to see the military used against the "enemies from within."

 

[NovaSaber]

I know P&R is bit more wild west than the rest of the board, but this is out of line. Telling a poster they are too dumb to know what there own interests are, and what's best for there family is something that shouldn't be ok for any member to post, let alone an admin.

Are you actually saying that someone can't be objectively wrong about what's in their family's interests?

If so....I disagree in the strongest possible terms.

The idea that people (usually fathers/husbands) can "decide" what's best for their family, instead of having a responsibility to learn what's best, is not just incorrect. It's not even just incorrect on a deeper level than believing something untrue about a politician is.
It's one of the most harmful of all beliefs.
It's why parents who believe nonsense can get away with not vaccinating their kids; it's why so-called parents can hit their kids and not be charged with a crime; it's a major part of why even what does meet the too-narrow definition of child abuse often goes unreported.

 

[Monique]

Speaking of Fox because this is an absolute clownworld where you just get handed major positions because you orange nosed Trump hard enough, Fox host Pete Hegseth is going to be SecDef. Is he qualified? Not remotely. Does that matter? Given all the other people hes tapped I can safely say that it doesn't matter in the slightest to him.

 

[KidTDragon]

Is Fox ashamed of that?

No, but it could make their viewers angry at their billionaire masters instead of whomever Fox wants them to be angry at.

 

[Axaday]

Their viewers like billionaires getting rich. It means probably they will too.

 

[KidTDragon]

But if Fox mentions it too much, their viewers might start to notice that none of those tax cuts are trickling down to them. Better to not mention it at all and draw their attention away from it by getting them angry at people who not only have no negative impact on their lives, but might actually improve them by raising taxes on the rich.

 

[Axaday]

When someone is sufficiently groomed, they never find out the tax cuts are not trickling down to them. What is happening is that they are so much better off than they would have been under the Democrats' failed policies.

 

[Ironbite4]

Lord we're in for a great 4 years. Just great.

Ironbite-btw, his SecDef doesn't believe women should be in the military.

 

[Ultra Magnus13]

Are you actually saying that someone can't be objectively wrong about what's in their family's interests?

If so....I disagree in the strongest possible terms.

The idea that people (usually fathers/husbands) can "decide" what's best for their family, instead of having a responsibility to learn what's best, is not just incorrect. It's not even just incorrect on a deeper level than believing something untrue about a politician is.
It's one of the most harmful of all beliefs.
It's why parents who believe nonsense can get away with not vaccinating their kids; it's why so-called parents can hit their kids and not be charged with a crime; it's a major part of why even what does meet the too-narrow definition of child abuse often goes unreported.

They absolutly can. Did any of you guys have a real discussion with him to determine in what way he though they would be better? Why he thought that? If his family shares that opinion?

Not that I saw. I saw many of you acting a fool. Treating a forum member poorly, telling him to hug off, calling him a moron, and then celebrating, when he had been dog piled enough he said he wasn't coming here any more.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Counterpoint, did he offer any of that? Did he try to actually discuss his views? Because to me it didn't look like it. Instead of trying to discuss anything, he took his ball and went home.