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NovaSaber

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Ultra Magnus13 said:
Nah, it's a real bad look. If it had been Trump "extremist" or "fantastic" or something like that, it would be easy enough to brush off, but Trump "supporters" is easily interpreted as "anyone who voted or will vote for Trump" it's a bad look for the President to call 40% or so of Americans garbage.
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Anyone who would still vote for Trump this time, after he tried to illegally overturn an election, is a fanatic; placing their support for him above their support for democracy or for the law.
 
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CoffeeHorse

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Axaday's right. The apostrophe is a total red herring. I doubt the teleprompter said either "supporters or "supporter's".

What he actually said was:

And just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage." Well, let me tell you something. I don’t- I- I- I don’t know the Puerto Rican that- that I know. Or a Puerto Rico, where I’m fr- in my home state of Delaware, they’re good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His- his- his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s unAmerican.
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The teleprompter might have said:

And just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage." Well, let me tell you something. That's not the Puerto Rico that I know. Where I'm from, in my home state of Delaware, they’re good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his demonization of Latinos. It's unconscionable, and it’s unAmerican.
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Ultra Magnus13

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Axaday said:
"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters [or supporter's]. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable and it's un-American."

I went and watched the video. He's pretty mush mouthed. He doesn't deliver any of it well. He gets pretty flustered right after the contested word and that could be meaningful. But I think it is important to note that he is obviously reading a telepromt. I feel pretty certain a professionally written statement being fed on a teleprompt wouldn't say Trump's supporters are garbage. If a White House speech-writer did mean that, the verb agreement is wrong and the immediate followup is about concepts, not people. It isn't written well. It doesn't make sense.

The White House says he said "supporter's", meaning the comedian himself. Then both sentences are about the comedian. The whole thing works in that model. I believe this is probably the truth.

Another model that works almost as well is if the teleprompt said "The only garbage I see floating out there is his demonization of Latinos. It's unconscionable and it's un-American." and Biden was talking along and thought it was going to say supporters and said it and then caught himself and tried to get back on the rails.

You can take your pick. But the version Republicans are playing really doesn't make sense.
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CoffeeHorse said:
Axaday's right. The apostrophe is a total red herring. I doubt the teleprompter said either "supporters or "supporter's".

What he actually said was:



The teleprompter might have said:
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It doesn't appear it was teleprompted, or I'm sure that would have been brought forth to condemn or clear.

Imo based off of how Biden speaks, either side is equally valid, but I'd personally take him at his word on what he meant clarifying after the fact.

My response of it being a very bad look for a president, was to someone interpreting it as all Trump supporters being garbage, and saying no one cares. That's a terrible take.
 
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Ultra Magnus13 said:
Nah, it's a real bad look. If it had been Trump "extremist" or "fantastic" or something like that, it would be easy enough to brush off, but Trump "supporters" is easily interpreted as "anyone who voted or will vote for Trump" it's a bad look for the President to call 40% or so of Americans garbage.
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74,000,000/335,000,000 = 22% </nitpick>

And the only people who do care are the Trump supporters, who are the biggest crybullies on the planet. The 'F your feelings' crowd throw a temper tantrum every time they can pretend to have their fee-fees hurt.
 
KidTDragon

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Dekafox

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Nice little schedule that should help us remember when we will know things, and that it may take a few days depending on what states fall where:

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wonko the sane?

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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And remember folks, trump is going to start screaming that he won and then fraud somewhere in there between poll closing and midnight (more than likely eastern time.). The RNC have already filed lawsuits claiming the election was rigged. Don't believe their lies, and don't lose hope.
 
The Mighty Mollusk

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Trump has been screaming that he won since he lost the last one. The big difference now is that he's not in a position to interfere with the law putting down his cult riots.

This is going to get ugly either way.
 

Axaday

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That's not a great look.

Mollusk, I hadn't thought about it before. It'd be kinda funny if he called out another mob and Biden just had them all arrested on the spot.
 
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