Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

abates

unfortunate shark issues
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Credible account of sexual assault released weeks before the election & still won't move the needle.
We're at the point where I'm convinced Trump could bite the head off a baby on national TV and the headlines would be something like "Trump's controversial eating habits surprise many." and the polling would still show a 50/50 split.
 

Axaday

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That headline is amazing. Hillary! And the Obamas! (and some guy in a blue suit that might be a former President also)
 

KidTDragon

Now with hi-res avatar!
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oh look; the Justice Department confirmed Russia paid millions to spread disinformation in Donalds' favor over social media.



what a breakthrough. maybe next week the Science office will confirm hydrogen and oxygen combine to make water.

Tim Pool decided that there's no reason to continue pushing Russian propaganda for free:
 

Axaday

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My favorite take on this was when he said he was quitting to spend more time with his family, but then someone posted that he has no wife and no kids. So I guess he's gonna focus on getting them?
His parents. I'm sure that's good look with his audience.
 

Pocket

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Because when your last job was "got paid by a hostile foreign government to spread disinformation on the air", you'll be lucky to ever get another one. Like, I'd throw his ass out of a job interview if I were the manager of a Chic-fil-A.
 

KidTDragon

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If he's smart, he'll have saved up enough of Vlad's Treasonbucks™ to not have to worry about working again. But looking at pics of his compound, he might not be.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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FB friend:
Moderates: Kamala can't win by calling Trump a fascist. Voters want something more than the politics of negativity.

Also moderates: Trump's ability to come up with insulting nicknames for his rivals is a kind of political genius!
People think Trump supporters have an ideology, and they don't realize how little thought goes on in these peoples' heads. They literally get mad at the government because the lineup at the DMV was too slow, and then they want to vote for someone who is not a competent politician because they think "competent politician" is a bad thing.
It's amazing that Trump supporters seriously think Kamala Harris is the dumb one in this election.

Trump's entire economic policy is based on tariffs, and despite multiple people literally explaining it to him on national TV, he still doesn't understand how tariffs work.

Intelligence is the ability to learn. Trump does not have this ability. He may actually be the dumbest national leader in history.

I'm not sure what's dumber: his inability to understand the concept of tariffs even after basing his entire economic platform on it, or his May 5 2016 claim in a CNBC interview that he could deal with the national debt by "renegotiating" it (just to be clear, this is what people do after declaring bankruptcy: he was saying he would fix the US debt by going bankrupt).
 

Paladin

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Donald was THREE HOURS LATE to a rally in MI so he could go on Joe Rogan and ramble about 2020 election fraud.

 

Axaday

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Trump is on such weird ground claiming that voters who actually voted, but did so with some misinformation, makes the election invalid. Misinformation is the majority of what he gives voters and he's been convicted of fraud committed to cover up an information suppression operation he directed in 2016 in the leadup to the election.

I don't like lies and trickery around an election, but I think a general fairness concept has to be that no matter how poor the decision-making process is for any individual voter, the decision they make at the ballot box is a valid one.

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Trump really needs to be asked why he walked back up to a table where he believes he got snookered last time.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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And if you can even get an answer from trump, through his "weaving", the answer will be a lie. He's running for president because he NEEDS the protection of the office to prevent his going to prison. For everything from basic fraud to high crimes.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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So he doesn't even have a valid excuse for being late..... He was just letting Joe Rogan agree with him for a few hours and lost track of time.... Hopefully a few of his rally-goers get fed up with his inconsiderate behavior and decide to either not vote, or vote for Kamala. Granted a lot of the people who attend his rallies are so far into the cult that I doubt being inconvenienced by a totally avoidable delay would change their minds at all.
 

KidTDragon

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"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters."

The only factual statement Trump has ever made.
 

Axaday

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So he doesn't even have a valid excuse for being late..... He was just letting Joe Rogan agree with him for a few hours and lost track of time.... Hopefully a few of his rally-goers get fed up with his inconsiderate behavior and decide to either not vote, or vote for Kamala. Granted a lot of the people who attend his rallies are so far into the cult that I doubt being inconvenienced by a totally avoidable delay would change their minds at all.
Yeah, no one at his rally can change their mind as fast as you are hoping. They are already his supporters largely because of how difficult it is for them to change their minds.

Edit - Egad, I feel like I've had an epiphany here. How deep this goes. Trying to change a Trump voter's mind isn't difficult simply because they've drunk his Koolaid. Having trouble changing their minds is the thing that attracted them to him in the first place.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

Trump didn't make these voters, he appealed to their extant habits and attitudes. His core voter base, his cult: they were ALWAYS the kind of people to think they knew more, and were always right even when the evidence was there telling them they were wrong. Trump just coopted it, and made it about HIM. He drew in a good number of folks who could be made to think critically, not because he offered them anything, but because he took over the republican party. But some of the ones still capable of critical thought have walked away, probably more than I'm giving credit for.

Even some government agencies have admitted that it's a cult, and you can't ask them to leave it, you have to deprogram them.
 


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