Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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See, if trump actually takes over and gets his dictatorship: it's going to crash the global economy as former allies and the world moves away from the american dollar as backing. We're not going to openly support fascists, after all. It'll be chaotic and look like the great depression switched its anti-psychotics for steroids.
...Really. The whole rest of the world is just going to cut off trade with the US, even knowing it will cause all of their economies to collapse overnight, just to gain a moral victory over a foreign country becoming an oppressive (solely to its own people) dictatorship?

These would be the same countries that continued buying oil from Russia right up until they invaded an allied country, and continue to get virtually everything else from China despite... *gestures vaguely at China's entire history as a nation from Mao onward*
 

Cybersnark

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Yeah, the problem isn't economics (businesses will happily follow Nazis as long as it's profitable).

The problem is that, as goes the US, so goes the rest of the world: a fascist collapse in the US will lead (and already has led) to further right-wing victories around the world (if not through populism, then through US interventionism).
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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I said "openly". Canada, for example, will very slowly, very quietly cut trade with the US, probably at the same pace as they lock down the border. We'll lean on trade with the EU and the far east that isn't china (oh hey! Canada just recently started massive trade negotiations with those areas... funny that.) and hope the burgeoning hydrogen trade sector will compensate for the loss of US business... enough to prevent our economy from outright collapsing. There will be... shrinkage...

The world is largely also making such other preparations. Not just cause the US is leaving nazi boot prints in the snow, but because the pandemic showed what happens when you overly depend on a single economic venue. It would have happened anyway, the pandemic made sure of that; your crusty, smelly, spray tanned, wish bought hitler knock off is just ensuring that it continues as opposed to pushing back towards the old status quo.

Nato will suffer horribly, US allies and trading partners will disappear. Because we've read the history books, and once you're done locking up the immigrants and the queers in concentration camps we know the next step is war. And none of us want to be on the wrong side of history in whatever world comes next.

But most of that won't happen: cause you're all going to get your asses out there and VOTE democrat, right?
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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FB friend:
A new Washington Post poll finds that 39% of FOXNews viewers believe Jan 6 was an FBI false-flag operation.

The 2024 election is not about politics. It is about a deranged cult attempting a hostile takeover of the entire country.
 

abates

unfortunate shark issues
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Former President Trump intends to personally deliver part of the defense's closing argument at the conclusion of his civil fraud trial in New York on Thursday, sources familiar with the former president's strategy tell ABC News.
A+ plan, cannot fail!, please proceed!
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Ohhh, that's going to be ******* hilarious. He does know that he's already been found guilty and this is just haggling over the punishment, right?
 

KidTDragon

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That's the brilliance of his plan; his closing argument is going to be a perfect closing argument, the best closing argument that anyone's ever given! Men will come up to him - large men, with tears in their eyes - and tell him how amazing his closing argument was! It will inspire this judge and all the other judges to drop all of the charges he's facing and declare that he is no longer required to adhere to our mortal laws! It will reinstate him as not just president of the U.S., but president of the world! For life! Trump Tower will grow 1000 stories and be the biggest, most beautiful building in all of human history! Hillary and Biden and Obama and the rest of the Democrats will confess to all of their crimes and submit to voluntary execution, with their final words being an apology for daring to treat Donald as anything less than the god that he is! And Fred Trump will return from the Great Beyond just long enough to say the words that Donald wanted to hear from him his whole life: "I find you slightly more tolerable than I led you to believe, son."
 

Ironbite4

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Ohhh, that's going to be ******* hilarious. He does know that he's already been found guilty and this is just haggling over the punishment, right?
Tell that to his lawyers.

AND TO NO ONE'S SURPRISE, THEY'RE JUST FLINGING CRAP AT THE WALL IN GEORGIA AND SEEING WHAT STICKS!


This is an amazing filing. He accuses DA Willis of having a relationship but has no proof. Just accuses her of having kisses with a fellow prosecutor. And you know that Trump ordered Mr. Roman to file this accusation. Cause this is how he operates. Makes me wonder how scared he is.

Ironbite-and shame on the hugging media for reporting on this like it has legs.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Trump did get to speak in the end. The judge is going to try to present a final decision by Jan 31.
Yeah, the judge said he could speak if he could abide by the rules everyone had to follow. Trumps lawyer said "he will not do that" and trump threw himself in a rambling, nonsensical, political diatribe.

And engoron let him. Anyone else would have been slapped with contempt of court charges, but trump got to speak.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
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Reportedly there was also a bomb threat called in on the judge's house the same morning. Gee, I wonder what cult of nutjobs could've done that.
 


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