They're the only ones that really need it. Titans got good immediately afterwards.
It is a real shame that both Trpticon and Omega takes massive jumps from Metro/Max. Plus, Scorponok/Black Zarak is undeniably superior. Tighter ratchets, ankle tilts, and just generally chunkier.
i don’t hate Metro/Max. Ii Mean, I still own them.
i don’t hate Metro/Max. Ii Mean, I still own them.
Metroplex is just bad. Even parts that weren't hurt by the decision to prioritize "Tallest ever!" still manage to be bad. I love how the chest compartment in city mode is blocked off by a wall for no reason. Good job.
I'd want a Fort Max redo before a Metroplex one. Metroplex, despite his flaws, still looks like Metroplex and transforms into his correct forms. Fort Max looks fine in Robot mode, but his alt modes are both kinda weak. Compared to all the other titans, Fort Max is the closest one to being "lazy" IMO.
I typically respond negatively to accusations of "lazy" being used, but it's hard for me to disagree when it comes to TR Fortress Maximus.
It really is the leg ratchets that kill both figures for me. Not being able to safely pose them in anything other than standing for fear of the whole thing toppling over is just plain frustrating. Metro having this is one thing, but Max having the same is just plain weird. I’ve often wanted to (but never got around to) trying to hunt down the upgrades and/or do the washer trick to tighten the ratchets.
what holds me back is primarily how good all subsequent titans have been and the hope that this will continue and lead to a new take on these too. Though post Tidal Wave, I’d bet on a new Max before Metro, because Legacy Cybertron Metroplex exists.
Speaking of big Wave. The fact that Hasbro are splitting the difference between Titan bot Armada game size Tidal Wave and combing weapon show Tidal Wave is very cool. Plus, big purple space battleship is awesome. I’d personally love (though I admit it’s highly unlikely) to see this guy in full Energon toy colours, as Energon is the only version of Tidal Wave I owned.
what holds me back is primarily how good all subsequent titans have been and the hope that this will continue and lead to a new take on these too. Though post Tidal Wave, I’d bet on a new Max before Metro, because Legacy Cybertron Metroplex exists.
Speaking of big Wave. The fact that Hasbro are splitting the difference between Titan bot Armada game size Tidal Wave and combing weapon show Tidal Wave is very cool. Plus, big purple space battleship is awesome. I’d personally love (though I admit it’s highly unlikely) to see this guy in full Energon toy colours, as Energon is the only version of Tidal Wave I owned.
These designers totally get us. Some of us wanted a Titan Tidal Wave. Some of us wanted the Megatron combination. They knew we were going to complain no matter which option they picked.
They found a third option none of us thought of. I can't get over it.
They found a third option none of us thought of. I can't get over it.
They're waiting until they figure out how to do Minicons right.
...but several of us thought of it?
Maybe not the exact method of implementation, but I know I had an idea for smaller parts to replicate the combination, and I'm sure I've seen others mention it.
As for Fort Max and Metroplex, I think the latter is the superior of the two in alt modes. Sucks he only has the one gun, but better than no guns, I guess. But at least, as annoyingly sprawling as his city mode is -- I mean, I get it, and I'm glad it can be, but some way to condense it a bit like G1 would have been nice as well -- at least there's places to go in and around it, rather than Fort Max, which is chiefly just "on." Even the "entrance" ramp feels kinda useless, with how steep it drops off and goes nowhere.
Heck, I think even that G1 Fort Max playground they had at a convention years ago has more of an interior to play around in than TR Fort Max.
I also wish he didn't look so annoyingly incomplete in every single mode if his head isn't attached. It almost defeats the purpose of him being a Headmaster -- er, Titan Master. Sure, Cerebros could integrate into G1 Fort Max's city and base modes, but not as the entire top of the tower, and there was a flap to close up where he'd be when he wasn't there.
Do we know anything about the drop tests that G1/Brave Max failed to prevent his rerelease over here? Like, specifically, what the point(s) of failure was/were?
I would imagine that the whole thing simply shattered into a million tiny pieces since, despite being a fairly solid figure, it's still pretty heavy. All that weight combined with gravity and a hard floor would be a disaster waiting to happen.
By contrast, all Titans of recent years have been reasonably lighter in weight compared to G1 Fort Max.
Huh. I thought "use different materials" was one of those suggestions that got quickly shot down when we were still angling for a Brave Max release.
I always figured Metroplex (and by extension Max) had the ratchets as loose as they did to help the younger hands move those gigantic joints-- a problem Trypticon over-corrected.
Honestly, I hope they don't figure this out. I was mad addicted to minicons, and well designed, properly tooled and painted minicons will just make me relapse.
Last notable Mini-Cons I recall was the assault team for Thrilling 30, their combined mode wasn't all that great but maybe they could do something better with the Street Action team and perhaps Laserbeak, Leader One and Sparlplug as core class figures.
the only other figures I can think of as new Mini-Cons are the Studio Series Arcee triplets but they may have benefitted from being core class too.
the only other figures I can think of as new Mini-Cons are the Studio Series Arcee triplets but they may have benefitted from being core class too.