Star Trek Lower Decks

MrBlud

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I included “or cross or dastar, etc” specifically to envelop *all* religious garb and not just limit it to hijabs (or women).
 

Fero McPigletron

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Any Ferengi women serving in Starfleet?

Thank goodness / how unfortunate that Grand Nagus Rom has been changing the females going naked policy, hehe
 

Cybersnark

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Any Ferengi women serving in Starfleet?
Not (yet) in canon, but there's one in the Titan novels (though she's a noncom, so she hasn't been through the Academy).

Given how common clothed, female-presenting Ferengi were in the LD episode (and what we've seen of social movements in real life), I'm starting to think Zek/Rom's reforms really just legalized what a lot of Ferengi were already doing.

We saw two cases on DS9 of Ferengi women effectively disguising themselves as men (in Ishka's case, she worked through messages and proxies, but Pel was actually using makeup). While Quark was scandalized, he's always been depicted as pretty conservative (possibly as a reaction to living around non-Ferengi). It wouldn't surprise me to learn that most homeworld Ferengi tend to be more liberal.
 

Fero McPigletron

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Oooo the link says she's a geologist! She must want to get close to precious metals for profit, hehe. Seriously though, that's cool.

I saw an Easter eggs video of the Lower Decks Ferengi visit episode and they zeroed in on a naked Ferengi sitting in the background during Tendi and Rutherford's date outside. Of course, they couldn't make it overt, haha
 

Ungnome

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Also keep in mind the Ferengi who join Starfleet generally aren't as interested in Ferengi tradition as those who stay loyal to the Ferengi Alliance. Starfleet isn't exactly a place to go if you're trying to get insanely wealthy, after all.
 

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Not (yet) in canon, but there's one in the Titan novels (though she's a noncom, so she hasn't been through the Academy).

Given how common clothed, female-presenting Ferengi were in the LD episode (and what we've seen of social movements in real life), I'm starting to think Zek/Rom's reforms really just legalized what a lot of Ferengi were already doing.

We saw two cases on DS9 of Ferengi women effectively disguising themselves as men (in Ishka's case, she worked through messages and proxies, but Pel was actually using makeup). While Quark was scandalized, he's always been depicted as pretty conservative (possibly as a reaction to living around non-Ferengi). It wouldn't surprise me to learn that most homeworld Ferengi tend to be more liberal.
That makes a lot sense.
 

Fero McPigletron

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9th ep is out.

I got the deep cut references and, wow!

Wait, aren't Klingons part of the Federation?

I knew the last name on the list! I remember that ep from Next Gen!

I'm pretty sure that info broker is a reference to the Corbinite Maneuver. Corbomite? The bluff thing.

I loved the aside explanation of why the ships lost power. It wasn't a new draining null device whatever! And all the dialogue before made sense! I semi called it when the second ep came out! Woo!

Love the tough bountyhunter, haha

Love the weather effect.

When she gave the backstory and said that person, I said NO WAY!

Also, isn't he more huge now? I recall he was smaller.

I think the reveal should have been more careful, honestly.

Ok, this is a great ep but I can't get past the bit of bad storytelling. The season is about a mystery and they just stumble on the solution cuz Tendi picked a random thing? That's just lazy writing.
 

Ungnome

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Yup, it's still the Klingon Empire. The Khitomer Accords and the fallout from the Neranda III incident resulted in a long standing alliance and end of (most)hostilities between the two powers. Culturally, the Klingon Empire would have a hard time joining the Federation, I think, despite the similarities between Andorian and Klingon societies.
 

Dekafox

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Yeah, in the STO timeline they even went back to war for a bit thanks to the Undine/Species 8472, as the Federation rejected Klingon accusations that Undine were infiltrating their governments(which ultimately turned out to be true in the end).

Side note: When TNG was first being put together, Gene or the staff had thought about making the Klingons part of the Federation, but that fell through obviously during production.
 

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Yup, it's still the Klingon Empire. The Khitomer Accords and the fallout from the Neranda III incident resulted in a long standing alliance and end of (most)hostilities between the two powers. Culturally, the Klingon Empire would have a hard time joining the Federation, I think, despite the similarities between Andorian and Klingon societies.
The big differences between the klingons and the andorians were that andorians didn't inherently view other species as inferior, and consequently: didn't enslave other civilizations. Andorians were willing to TRY negotiating, klingons just... don't. Until it's obvious that the other civilization will not only put up a fight, but have a good chance to win it.

Plus that whole thing they did to the tribble home world... I mean, jesus christ. I don't believe in overkill but that jive was overkill.
 

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Thanks for the inputs. I asked about the Klingons cuz the new ep said (I don't think its a spoiler) that the ships attacked were all non-Federation ships. So I wondered about the Klingons. Actually also the Binars. Guess they haven't joined the Federation yet either.
 

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I like that they made
Sito Jaxa part of Mariner backstory. I didn't remember her name, but when she said she was an ensing asked to become a spy, and how it led to her pointless death I imedietly recognize who she talked about. That was a nice reference to a story and character, that were unlikely to be mentioned any time soon, if ever. She was also a friend of Locarno in his introduction episode, so wooo, double reference bonus!

EDIT: Triple reference bonus: the episode in with Sito died was called LOWER DECKS. Woooo.

Sito Jaxa

I love this show. Lower Decks, Strange New Worlds and Prodigy makes me happy to be a Star Trek fan again.
 

Fero McPigletron

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Had a thought.

It's a fake out! Locarno isn't the attacker! The blueprints laid so conveniently out there is cuz he's hunting for the attacker too. He just successfully found the planet and got Mariner cuz she's the only familiar face to him.

If that's the case though, who's actually behind everything? Just the ambushed crews' Lower Deckers all conspiring to overthrow their higher ups? No mastermind?

Hopefully they can somehow explain why Tendi conveniently found the planet in a convincing way, like one of the people sabotaged the satellite or something. Else it's gonna bug me.

Oh, cool seeing the Mudd name but sad we didn't see him, his women or his robots.
 


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