MYM - Chap6, Ep4 (Special): "Secrets of Starlight"...................(SPOILERS)

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The last episode of chap-6 is upon us!
And this one is a 45 minute special.
What strange new lands may they discover?
And who will be... the new villain?


The episode is now available on Netflix
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SYNOPSIS:



Secrets of Starlight

The Together Tree portal leads the ponies to
a glittery wonderland called Starlight Ridge.
But are the local Auroricorns hiding something?

 

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Secrets of Starlight


New opening.

New setting. New toy theme.

I've never seen snow either.

Every setting in MYM is deserted. At least they're making it a plot point this time.

It's not just Bridlewood. These unicorns are weird too.

They're trying to kill Hitch with cuteness.

We found something Izzy isn't good at.

They're gonna get shipped.

Fun fun fun.

Sunny continues to trust Zip's instincts.

Nah. I would go right home. They could fix the Marestream and come back without depending on the portal, right? Unless the Marestream really is fried for good.

This is a more ominous threat than anything we've seen to date.

That is a G4 style rump.

Ah. The villain is a Fuzor.

That is how sound works, Sunny.

Calling it now. The rabbit is the real villain.

This is a dumb way to determine the town's leader... but these are unicorns.

You have an alicorn who currently holds the Rainbow of Light. Just blast the villain in the face.

That does not remotely look like a portal.

Snowball fight of justice.

This villain really isn't doing much to fight back.

The villain has been defeated, and there is still quite a bit of time left.

Somehow the villain is still getting dumber.

New friend!

There's a bigger bad.

And then MYM got renewed and we totally saw this villain again, right?
 

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Episode 4 The Secrets of Starlight

“We’ve been waiting for 3 hours, Iz” I guess the rest of them REALLY wanted that glitter makeover that Izzy got. Yeah, this was probably originally supposed to be a separate chapter from the last 3 episodes like the other specials.

Also, I didn’t know Zipp could bend her neck like that. It looks like it hurts. Her poor neck.

Was this supposed to originally be about Crystal Ponies?

Pipp waiting for 3 hours just so she could post pictures of herself with a new look is the most realistic thing about this scene.

“It’s not like it’s going to suck us into a magical portal” Hitch…don’t. Just don’t.

I hope they enjoy their new glitter looks. Because it will never leave them. NEVER. Or their carpets. Or their lungs.

I feel like Misty is trying to get Hitch to notice her with how she’s prancing around him.

I guess the Together Tree is the new Friendship Map table.

Misty never being in snow before is DIRECTLY invalidating a lot of Tell Your Tale…

Oh…oh no…all the “snow” is actually just more glitter. The trees…the animals…It’s all just glitter all the way down. It’s a vacuum’s worst nightmare.

Well, Izzy’s going to be tasting glitter for the rest of her life. Of course, with all the crafting she does, that might have already been the case.

New villain introduction or just a random friendship problem?

“Why is everypony trotting TOWARDS the scary noises when there’s perfectly good silence in the other direction?” You really are new to this friend group, aren’t you, Misty? Plus, it sounds more like a dance party than danger. I’m expecting a chorus of “We will, we will rock you” to start breaking out.

Looks like they all have hot chocolate. If they all speak with Swedish accents…RUN! This has all the earmarks of a cult. Yeah, magic flute…this is a cult. Maybe it’s just the “Starlight” name, but…I’m betting that’s where this is going.

Okay, I like that one pony messes up their choreographed dance. That’s a nice moment.

One thing every race of ponies have in common…their flight response is always in high gear.

“It’s hard to know who to trust or what is real…because of the trance” The red flags are right there. Please notice them.

Violet Frost is the leader. And Comet is the clumsy one.

Aurora-corns. Okay. I guess it’s because of the crystal horns.

Jumping jellybean cocoa. Okay. But frozen cocoa…is just ice cream I guess?

And…they instantly drink the kool-aid…or cocoa in this case. Fluttershy would be proud.

Pipp is SOLD if she gets a excuse to sing.

Starlight Ridge. Going to have to try and remember all these names.

Oh…Hitch can’t resist ALL the girls giving him puppy dog eyes. Misty’s the best at looking pleading, though.

How is Pipp already so good at ice skating? The naturally-coordinated are witches I say!

At one point, I’m pretty sure Izzy did a cartwheel. Impressive.

Hitch holding hands with Sparky and Misty…hmm…

Okay, that Aurora Flare was really pretty.

They’re all SO GOOD at ignoring all these obvious warning signs. They’re all going to turn into Wendigos or something later, I can feel it.

“I can’t slip and slide on accident if I slip and slide on PURPOSE” Her logic is infallible.

They all seem so HURT about these ponies never hearing about Equestria. Personally. It hurts their feelings. Their home that was shut away by a magic spell for who knows how long. No one was SUPPOSED to know that you existed.

Sunny was able to carve the Unity Crystals out of ice. Girl’s got talent. I can’t tell what Zipp made, maybe the Marestream? Pipp made a VERY stylish wing-musical note. Hitch’s snowman is all his critters he left at home. Sparky made a surprisingly stylish egg or Dragon Stone. And Misty made a cute butterfly. And Izzy made…EVERYONE. They’re all REALLY good at this.

Do all the auroracorns have the same cutiemark? Or are they frozen over? Nope, nope, they just all have “raised” cutie marks drawn on their “crystal”.

“That’s it? We’re all done? It was so sudden” Feels like they could be talking about Make Your Mark in general. If this IS the last episode.

You know, if this place is like Alaska, it just might be daylight when they have to sleep sometimes. 24 hours of sun and all.

Oh, well, those are…special faces, right there. *SIGH* All unicorn variants are just destined to be weird and broken, aren’t they?

“I know odd, this is even odder than that” She is the expert.

Wait a second! Is that flying leopard a reference to one of the characters from Pony Life? That one Wild Sider tiger *googles* yeah, Lightning Chill. This looks a LOT like her. Allura, huh? Why does she seem to have Twilight's color scheme? *Squints* And ALMOST her cutie mark?


Oh no…Angel’s still alive! And slightly less evil than before!

Oh…that voice is definitely a reference to Catrina from G1, isn’t it?

Why…would you keep getting brainwashed by a flying cat a secret? Why wouldn’t you just warn them to stay away? That’s a weird thing to keep secret.

Twitch, not Angel, fine.

The Nova Charm. Cool name. Weird that your town’s ancient relic can be used by your leaders to mind control you, though. I…don’t think that’s a good power for ANYONE to have. Probably makes collecting taxes pretty easy, though.

“It was so sparkly” Pipp, focus.

Uhh…so the stars are actually portals to other dimensions? Okay. Didn’t see that coming. Even MLP is getting into the multiverse. I guess it makes sense with a character who looks like a Wild Sider.

Time for extra sneaky mode!

Mind controlling the auroracorns into being happy against their will would be more twisted we got got to see more of that.

Wait, if you do a song, won’t it cause a Aurora Flare and attract Allura’s attention?

How did no one think of earplugs in all this time?

Well…Allura’s really gullible.

PIpp is literally a siren.

This “I can have anything I want” sounds awfully close to Opaline. Again. Not sure if this is going for a theme, or just slightly lazy writing. Or maybe this was originally supposed to BE Opaline? Like Saruman taking over the Shire in the epilogue of Lord of the Rings.

Yup, Yup. Hypnotized Zipp is creepy. Very creepy.

Oh, they literally just have to start a snowball fight to free everyone from the mind control. Okay, fine. It’s winter themed. I’ll allow it.

Well, I guess we know Sparky’s fire-food actually tastes good to other creatures, too. Not just himself.

This is the most cheerful banishment EVER!

These snowballs are so MILDLY INCONVENIENCING to this GIANT APEX PREDATOR!

And…Sparky saves the day with a fire-burp. *SIGH* You win again, baby burps!

Oh, hey, they did a little roll call with their elements. Cute.

Well, I guess the next season of Make Your Mark is going to be Sliders-based. The next jump…might just be the jump home.

Yeah, this really shows Allura who..just wanted to go home! Take that….homesick villain! I guess we’re supposed to WANT her to remain trapped here where she can get revenge on those who wronged her at any time?

Huh…Comet’s coming with. I didn’t see that coming. They’re the…Mane 7 now? Or 8 if we include Sparky?

Brother? Okay, I guess we have a ongoing plot. And the voice is inside her head. And I didn’t notice a crystal or anything that he could be sealed away in. Unless…Twitch is the “sealed” form of her brother?

And the season ends with Izzy having a ball on her horn. It all comes full circle. The universe…is balanced.

Huh…Sparky is voiced by the same actor as Twitch. The rabbit is basically a evil Sparky. Interesting touch.


I've never seen snow either.
Hey! Now you know how I feel about the beach!





Okay, so some overall thoughts about this "chapter" and some broad thoughts about the show, since most people won't come in here until they finish up everything.

This...uh...this felt a little rushed, to be honest. It's almost certainly a product of the Netflix drops, but certain plot lines don't feel as fleshed out and connected as they could have. It FEELS like they should have had plenty of time to set things up properly, because this show released over the course of two years. But, that's still only ONE season of G4. I want to give them a little leeway. But, stuff like the dragons just kind of...showing up without a lot of fanfare feels like they either just didn't have the time or the budget for certain things. The Awakening of the Dragons SHOULD have been a big event, but just happened off-screen.

And...as good as the scene between Misty and Opaline WAS in this version...I still feel like MISTY should have been the one to ultimately defeat Opaline. This has really been Misty's show. Misty's had the most development out of everyone in the cast. Opaline is really MISTY's villain. And Misty's definitely a PART of her downfall. But, Misty should have had a bigger role to play at the very end. That's mostly a quibble, though.

But, what I DON'T feel is a quibble...is that this show didn't explain NOTHIN'. We didn't see WHY Opaline was expelled from the alicorn homeland of Skyros. They didn't even properly INTRODUCE Skyros, since that's brand new to this show (minus the Journal of the Two Sisters). We didn't get to SEE how Twilight created the Unity Crystals or the Dragon Stone. We didn't learn how long it's been between G4 and G5. We don't learn why magic is different post-Twilights spell. We didn't learn where Sparky's egg dropped out of the sky from. We didn't learn how the Breezie's got Megan's Locket or where it comes from or what that means. We don't learn why the dragons now have cutie marks. We don't learn why EVERYTHING seems to have cutie marks, including our new flying cat villainess. I NEED THE LORE, HASBRO! Look, I get that this is a show for kids. Stopping to do a ENTIRE episode to just...explain your new world might bore them. But, I think the streaming binge model can help account for that. We CAN have a slower episode where you explain...ANYTHING, really. This WOULD be a good job for the comics...if they were actually allowed to flesh out the canon. But, they'd just be ignored.

*HUFF* But, it's definitely not a bad little show. It had it's ups and downs, sure. If they HAVE to choose between the two shows...I'm still kind of glad they picked Tell Your Tale. I just ended up liking that style more. But, if they decide to bring this show back, I'm not against it. At the very least, I'm hoping Tell Your Tale explains some of these odd plot threads they've left dangling. But, at the end of the day, I've had fun with this show too. They definitely tried. I can't say they didn't.

If this is where this show ends....I think it at least had a solid enough finale. We at least addressed and wrapped up the main villain for this season. I've seen worse endings. And we do still have different ways to wrap up the different lingering plots.
 
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But, stuff like the dragons just kind of...showing up without a lot of fanfare feels like they either just didn't have the time or the budget for certain things. The Awakening of the Dragons SHOULD have been a big event, but just happened off-screen.
This bugs me. Not only was the awakening offscreen, but the dragons sorta didn't end up mattering. At all. Not even a little bit.

And...as good as the scene between Misty and Opaline WAS in this version...I still feel like MISTY should have been the one to ultimately defeat Opaline. This has really been Misty's show. Misty's had the most development out of everyone in the cast. Opaline is really MISTY's villain. And Misty's definitely a PART of her downfall. But, Misty should have had a bigger role to play at the very end. That's mostly a quibble, though.
I don't know. I can 100% see the argument for this, but then it really would be Misty's show. The Mane 5 already didn't have a very active role. Giving Misty the win would rub it in.

We didn't see WHY Opaline was expelled from the alicorn homeland of Skyros.
Her personality?

They didn't even properly INTRODUCE Skyros, since that's brand new to this show (minus the Journal of the Two Sisters).
This I agree with. Functionally it doesn't matter that much, since she doesn't have any unfinished business there. She doesn't want to go back there and get revenge for something we didn't see. She wants to be the most important person. Skyros didn't make her feel that way. The place just didn't give her what she already felt she was owed.

They should have just not bothered mentioning the place at all.

We didn't get to SEE how Twilight created the Unity Crystals or the Dragon Stone. We didn't learn how long it's been between G4 and G5. We don't learn why magic is different post-Twilights spell.
In this case I actually prefer not knowing. I was in the extreme minority, but I didn't want to see Luna's fall either, so I am consistent on this. It's just how I like my apocalypses. I don't want Fallout to reveal who pushed the button first. either.

We didn't learn where Sparky's egg dropped out of the sky from.
A Rhynoc dropped it.

We didn't learn how the Breezie's got Megan's Locket or where it comes from or what that means.
This one does bother me, since the mystery isn't played up for any drama. It's just an unexplained powerful thing conveniently given to Sunny for free.

It wasn't explained in G1 either, so we can't even borrow lore from there.

We don't learn why the dragons now have cutie marks. We don't learn why EVERYTHING seems to have cutie marks, including our new flying cat villainess.
Maybe they were never inherently a pony thing. Anything at a certain level of enlightenment gets them. Dragons were still a little too close to the wild when we last saw them.
 

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This bugs me. Not only was the awakening offscreen, but the dragons sorta didn't end up mattering. At all. Not even a little bit.
Part of me wants to say they were the muscle for both sides. Opaline DID use them as henchmen. They henched!

...But, honestly, the corrupted Tree probably did most of the heavy lifting for actually attacking the ponies. And the Manes just used them as transportation. And they DID have the Marestream which was just sidelined for "convenient" and kind of un-elaborated upon plot reasons. The dragons did end up a little redundant.

(We can probably assume stealing the cutie marks was weakening the Friendship Power of the Crystals...for REASONS. They're the UNITY Crystals not the Cutie Mark Crystals, and the ponies weren't really arguing amongst each other THIS time, but...I'll let it go for now. The Crystals have always been weird and ill defined. The writers just didn't even really give us a line about WHY the Crystals and Magic were failing THIS particular time. It's possible the cutie marks are the "receivers" for the Unity Crystals' magic "signal", I guess? Maybe? )

So...yeah, the dragons were just here to look cool. Instead of having a BUNCH of background ponies they had a handful of background dragons, instead!

I don't know. I can 100% see the argument for this, but then it really would be Misty's show. The Mane 5 already didn't have a very active role. Giving Misty the win would rub it in.

Yeah, and I can see an argument for Sparky being the key to defeating Opaline, too, since he was her target for most of the series. That's fair. But, Misty got KIDNAPPED! She lost her childhood because of Opaline! I feel like Misty should have at least been in the tree with Sunny and Sparky to do SOMETHING during the big final conflict.

Her personality?
The thing is, I think as far as we can tell, Opaline was banished and/or ran away when she was about Cutie Mark Crusader/Pippsqueak age. At the very least, I just want a flashback explaining what exactly happened and why it took over 1000 years for her to finally make her move. Remember, she was a kid around when Celestia and Luna were children, too. BEFORE Luna got banished to the moon. Where WAS she all this time? What was she doing? I really think you could get a two-parter or a comic book miniseries out of expanding her backstory.

I really don't hate the IDEA of Skyros, but they didn't do ANYTHING with it. I think it was just a way for the writers to "explain" that Opaline was BORN a Alicorn and didn't EARN it like Twilight did. Honestly, since we now know Opaline stole her fire magic from dragons to become a Fire Alicorn, I'm not sure if she ever even found her own magic or talent...she might not even have a "real" cutie mark! Now there's some more potential irony!

It wasn't explained in G1 either, so we can't even borrow lore from there.
It kind of bothers me more that they never even said anything about it to explain it for the newbies and kids in the audience. I mean, WE know what it is. But, someone who's never seen G1 before is going to have NO IDEA what this is or where it came from or why it's important all the sudden. And Hasbro doesn't always make G1 the easiest thing to find, you might have to go searching for it.

Maybe they were never inherently a pony thing. Anything at a certain level of enlightenment gets them. Dragons were still a little too close to the wild when we last saw them.
The problem I have with that is that we had a entire episode in G4 where Gabby the Griffon REALLY wanted a cutie mark of her own, but just couldn't because it was a pony thing. You're telling me the Griffons weren't "civilized" enough to get cutie marks? And I'd bet if we see the Griffons in G5 they DO have cutie marks, because that just seems to be where G5 is leaning, design-wise.

To me, I think magic changing due to Twilight's spell is the better explanation. I just want them to actually expand upon and explain it. Do some world-building! It won't hurt too much, I promise!

It's her little spy drone. The one Misty used to distract Opaline in the last episode.
Oh, good catch. Though...honestly, I feel worse about forgetting about the pumpkin. I don't feel that bad about not paying attention to a little drone. Even if it WAS in more episodes.
 
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Oh, good catch. Though...honestly, I feel worse about forgetting about the pumpkin. I don't feel that bad about not paying attention to a little drone. Even if it WAS in more episodes.
Well to be fair... Zipp isn't exactly the best at sculpting snow...
 

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