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Paladin

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Funny how Democrats seem to need a supermajority to accomplish anything while Republicans can apparently get everything they want every term regardless of how many seats they hold.
 

Spin-Out

i cant take it anymore im at my limit
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Because if there's a chance to non-violently keep those MAGANazi ************s from taking power so they won't get the opportunity to murder most of my friends, I'll ******* take it. I know I'm constantly baying for GQP blood, but I don't want to kill anyone unless I have no other choice.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Funny how Democrats seem to need a supermajority to accomplish anything while Republicans can apparently get everything they want every term regardless of how many seats they hold.
Because the bar for preventing stuff from happening is significantly lower and easier to achieve than the bar that requires changing the fundamental documents of your democracy. Shocking, I know.
 

Paladin

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How do you explain to a student who just watched, say, the NYPD throw their friends down a flight of stairs for participating in a nonviolent protest — acts committed without so a peep of condemnation from the president — that a vote for him is a vote against fascism?

 

NovaSaber

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Biden's mind can actually be changed. His position on the very issue these protests are about has shifted in the direction the protestors want; not by enough, but it has shifted.

That's the difference between him and Von Shitzinpantz that would still apply even if their current positions were exactly the same.
Which they aren't. Again, they aren't different enough, but there is literally no area I can think of in which Biden isn't at least somewhat less bad than the alternative.
 

Thylacine 2000

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Paladin said:
How do you explain to a student who just watched, say, the NYPD throw their friends down a flight of stairs for participating in a nonviolent protest — acts committed without so a peep of condemnation from the president — that a vote for him is a vote against fascism?

"Nonviolent" (*) (sic)

Beyond that, you must ask if this person is worth explaining anything to.


Even among current college students, Palestine ranks 15th in significance out of the 16 issues polled. This is a fringe issue among fringe people. I've spent my whole life watching politicians lose after they swore the youth vote would turn out for them and then it didn't turn out at all.
 

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Ungnome

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A vote for Biden might not be a strong vote against fascism, but a vote for Trump is a pretty strong vote FOR fascism. Hopefully by November people realize that. If you think Biden is bad for the Palestinians, wait till you get a load of Trump. As horrible as it feels, this election is about minimizing harm, not improving things. Once the cult is diminished we can work on the later.
 

Paladin

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A strategist interview that refuses accept the possibility that their internal polls are wrong is probably a sign the campaign is not going to go well.

 

Spin-Out

i cant take it anymore im at my limit
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every election since 2020 has overestimated republicans' chances and underestimated democrats' chances. no matter how much the polls claim they're "more accurate than ever," i'm skeptical of them at best; most people don't answer numbers they don't know these days (especially Gen X, Y, Z and Alpha), and pollsters never call cell phones (when more and more people under 50 don't even bother with landlines).

plus, it is an established fact republicans will hire "pollsters" to deliberately inflate the numbers for their candidates, in an attempt to get democratic voters to just say "why bother" and not vote. it's part of their voter suppression strategy.

i'm done with doomism. my philosophy now is "hope for the best and do what you can to make that happen, and if the worst happens, wake the **** up, samurai. we got some MAGAzis to burn."
 
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CoffeeHorse

Exhausted, but still standing.
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That's not that part of that interview that stood out to me. This strategist thinks voters just haven't heard enough about Trump's flaws, but if the campaign hammers that message enough, then people will know.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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Or super excited at the thought of a horse race.
There need be no "or". CNN, USA Today, and MSNBC are owned by right-wing shills too, just subtler ones who don't want to murder gay people. It's the nature of being a big business.
 


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