Transformers: Age of the Primes toyline discussion || update: stock renders of upcoming Alpha Trion, Micronus, Flatline, Fireflight, Skydive, ++

[LBD "Nytetrayn"]

Are we at the point in the fandom and in fiction where we have Primes (capital P) and primes (little p) now?

"I mean, he's a prime, but you know, not a Prime"

but Archer was like, "Well, that's no longer a concern of mine."

That's about as classy as someone saying "I pissed in the pool, but I'm no longer swimming, so that's no longer a concern of mine."

Originally, before Vector Prime and ROTF came along, the setup seemed to be like this: First there was Primus, then the first Matrix-bearer, Prima, was named after him, and then the dynasty of Matrix-bearers known as "Primes" were thus named from both Primus and Prima. The "Prime" title being named after both of them meant it could only come into existence after Prima had already passed the Matrix onto its next bearer, meaning it couldn't and shouldn't have already existed when Prima and the other members of the Thirteen Original Transformers existed.

"False Primes" would then be those who merely assumed the role and position of a Prime but without having been chosen by the Matrix, much like Sentinel in TF One.

This is another case like "Megatron named himself after The Fallen despite The Fallen's real name having been scrubbed from history, lost to time, and unknown to anyone in the present day" where the original lore was ignored because someone in charge had an idea that they thought was cool but didn't bother to stop and think if it actually made any sense with what had already been established beforehand.

All this, and we haven't even touched on Nemesis Prime yet.

Just get a license from Hasbro and you can make it canon!

Doesn't seem to be that difficult these days.

 

[Platypus Prime]

I'm still annoyed that they didn't remake the Canon camera Reflector as Megatron. The head was already close. Just add a small camera accessory that unfolds into his fusion cannon, and Canon Megatron's Canon cannon would have been canon. Missed opportunity.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

I'm still annoyed that they didn't remake the Canon camera Reflector as Megatron. The head was already close. Just add a small camera accessory that unfolds into his fusion cannon, and Canon Megatron's Canon cannon would have been canon. Missed opportunity.

Alas, as such a thing only exists in our imaginations, it must remain Canon Megatron's Canon cannon fanon.

 

[Haywire]

There's always Cannon Robo from Solar Adventure. Its very clearly Reflector, but shoots a beam like Megatron. (And Whirl's in there, too, but they call him "Shank".) Which is still not canon, but at least theres a cannon?

 

[NovaSaber]

Alas, as such a thing only exists in our imaginations, it must remain Canon Megatron's Canon cannon fanon.

Or we might say, personal canon about non-canon Canon Megatron's Canon personal cannon.